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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: gundaetiapo@gmail.com, 15045@debbugs.gnu.org,
	deng@randomsample.de, eric@siege-engine.com
Subject: bug#15045: Point jumps inappropriately around time of Semantic lexing
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:16:39 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837gfvrltk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv8v0bvu96.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: deng@randomsample.de,  gundaetiapo@gmail.com,  15045@debbugs.gnu.org,  eric@siege-engine.com
> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:03:05 -0400
> 
> >> >> Right, that would do it.
> >> >> What happens if you remove the calls to sit-for from time.el?
> >> > You cannot ensure redisplay without that.
> >> I don't know what scenario you have in mind.
> > Any one.  Emacs enters redisplay for any number of reasons, but you
> > can never be sure it will do so at any specific point unless you force
> > redisplay at that point.  As you well know, in general, while Lisp
> > code runs, Emacs does not redisplay.
> 
> Of course, but that's true in general.  What makes it more true in
> display-time-event-handler?

Why should we care?  Good engineering does not build things on what
"currently happens to work", because that will eventually break,
given enough development.

> Remember that display-time-update (called just before the sit-for)
> ends with a call to force-mode-line-update.

Whose effect no one really understands.

> In practice, is there any important scenario where
> display-time-event-handler's sit-for is useful?

I never analyzed this to tell.

And anyway, display-time is just one case of a timer that needs to
force redisplay.





  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-09 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 17:59 bug#15045: Point jumps inappropriately around time of Semantic lexing Barry OReilly
2013-08-07 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-07 18:42   ` David Engster
2013-08-07 19:31     ` Barry OReilly
2013-08-07 19:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-07 20:39         ` Barry OReilly
2013-08-08  2:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 17:07             ` Barry OReilly
2013-08-08 17:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-07 21:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 17:21     ` David Engster
2013-08-08 18:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 18:13         ` David Engster
2013-08-08 21:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 22:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09  7:56             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 14:03               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 14:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2013-08-09 17:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 18:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 20:03       ` Barry OReilly
2013-08-08 20:30         ` David Engster
2013-08-08 21:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09  5:36             ` David Engster
2013-08-09  7:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 11:50                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-08-09 13:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 14:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 14:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 18:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 18:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 18:41                           ` David Engster
2013-08-09 20:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 21:36                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-10  9:42                               ` David Engster
2013-08-09 21:46                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 16:10                 ` David Engster
2013-08-09 18:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-10  9:54                     ` David Engster
2013-08-10 10:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-10 18:06                         ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-14 19:32                           ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-14 19:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-15 13:42                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-15 14:12                                 ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-15 16:28                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-15 17:08                                     ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-15 18:48                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-15 19:19                                         ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-16  2:57                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 14:57                                         ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-16 17:50                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 18:32                                             ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-17 15:03                                             ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-17 18:18                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-17 20:01                                                 ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-18  0:27                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 14:03                                                     ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-25 19:15                                                       ` Barry OReilly
2013-11-14 18:21                                                         ` Barry OReilly
2013-11-16  4:14                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-16  4:54                                                             ` Barry OReilly
2013-11-16 17:37                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-16 20:33                                                                 ` Barry OReilly
2013-11-16 21:29                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 18:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09  9:12               ` martin rudalics
2013-08-09 16:27                 ` David Engster
2013-08-09 17:10                   ` martin rudalics
2013-08-09 18:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 21:26         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 21:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 22:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09  7:54               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 21:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09  3:26       ` Eric M. Ludlam

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