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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: rmunitz1@bloomberg.net, eggert@cs.ucla.edu,
	20247@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com
Subject: bug#20247: 24.4; Emacs hangs at startup in desktop mode
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 20:44:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837feo8w0u.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4eebea73-4fcb-4dc7-b149-cef7a34a3c16@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 20 May 2016 10:15:53 -0700 (PDT))

> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, rgm@gnu.org, rmunitz1@bloomberg.net,
>         20247@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com
> 
> > > Can we not leave the default to respecting the saved display value,
> > > but also use a `condition-case' or similar to DTRT if that display
> > > does not exist or trying to use it raises an error in some other way?
> > 
> > Can you explain why using display that is not the current one even
> > makes sense?
> 
> Ask Juanma, or whoever else might have been responsible for designing
> this aspect of desktop.

Juanma is not the one who claims that the current default value is the
correct one; you are.  I hoped you could explain why you think so.

> Desktop is designed to support exactly that, no?  You are apparently
> questioning the design.

The design supports both values.  I question the default.  I don't
object to allow the other value if it is useful in some marginal use
cases.

> Desktop records lots of stuff that might not be usable when
> an attempt is made to restore the recorded desktop.

Actually, no, it doesn't.  It generally records only values that
should be usable.

> > > I don't have the code for #2.  No doubt Someone (TM) would need to
> > > _actually try to debug this_, to find out just what happens when a
> > > bad display value is tried.
> > 
> > I think it's clear without any debugging.
> 
> Really?  In that case, can you please make it raise an error instead
> of hanging?

I don't see how that is relevant.  Being able to explain the problem
doesn't necessarily mean a solution is at hand.

> Just trying to help.

You aren't.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-20 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-02 15:22 bug#20247: 24.4; Emacs hangs at startup in desktop mode Richard Munitz (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEX)
2015-04-15 18:03 ` Glenn Morris
2015-04-16 13:46 ` Richard Munitz (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEX)
2016-05-20 15:08 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-20 15:24   ` Drew Adams
2016-05-20 15:34     ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-20 15:54       ` Drew Adams
2016-05-20 16:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 16:31         ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-20 16:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 16:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <<83d1og90iw.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-20 17:15       ` Drew Adams
2016-05-20 17:44         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
     [not found]     ` <<<83d1og90iw.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<4eebea73-4fcb-4dc7-b149-cef7a34a3c16@default>
     [not found]         ` <<837feo8w0u.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-20 17:54           ` Drew Adams
2016-05-23 16:53 ` Paul Eggert

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