From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17742: Acknowledgement (Support for enchant?) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 20:54:56 +0200 Message-ID: <837f73bqwv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834m2hjbmr.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwfbxaf.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481655371 9442 195.159.176.226 (13 Dec 2016 18:56:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17742@debbugs.gnu.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 13 19:56:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsFD-0001gI-Tg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 19:56:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40099 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsFI-0005gb-3H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:56:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsFB-0005gL-NX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:56:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsF8-0007JQ-K7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:56:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsF8-0007JG-Gk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsF8-0005YK-Ao for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:56:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17742 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17742-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17742.148165533521311 (code B ref 17742); Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17742) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2016 18:55:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41016 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsEg-0005Xf-Oq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:55:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57594) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsEf-0005XS-NK for 17742@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:55:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsEX-0007D9-Gr for 17742@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:55:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49472) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsEX-0007D5-ES; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:55:25 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2737 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cGsEV-0001XZ-5d; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:55:25 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Reuben Thomas on Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:26:43 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126999 Archived-At: > From: Reuben Thomas > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:26:43 +0000 > Cc: 17742@debbugs.gnu.org > > I understand that Enchant doesn't yet support these features, but in > that case we must provide our users with some way of customizing these > settings, we cannot silently use defaults that are most probably > inappropriate, even if they are 90% correct. > > ​The way to customize it is surely the same as currently, namely​ to customize ispell-dictionary-alist?​ That's okay, but then ispell.el shouldn't be generating dictionary entries, but instead should leave that to the user, as we do with Ispell. > Given that even management of personal word lists needs a patch to Enchant, it seems to me better to first > try to engage with the Enchant maintainers on this. There's also one obvious question, namely, what do other > Enchant users do? Enchant is used in Abiword (free word processor), Pidgin (free IM client) etc. So, I shall > look into this. Thanks. > However, I think that this patch can be installed anyway, as out of the box Enchant will never be used (as I > have commented in the code, auto-detection of Enchant is not safe until a new version is widespread, as > unlike old versions of ispell and aspell, a current version of Enchant is not merely lacking functions, it is > useless), and for some Emacs users, it could be useful, as it allows access to spellcheckers currently > unsupported by Emacs (albeit, as you note, probably requiring customized dictionary setup). I'm okay with installing this, provided that the above-mentioned issue is taken care of, if only by leaving it to the user to provide the dictionary entries by hand. I don't think it's a good idea to auto-generate entries that are only 80% correct, as that will certainly trigger bug reports.