From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18059: 24.3.92; defvar and special variables Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 17:57:26 +0200 Message-ID: <837eqqtt09.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ha2c7lxy.fsf@web.de> <87mv0gbq33.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87y3k0bdm9.fsf@web.de> <87inb4bbse.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <873727bkud.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87efloa000.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87fu5y53w5.fsf@gmail.com> <87371xlpmw.fsf@web.de> <87a7w2m1cb.fsf@web.de> <874lm7u554.fsf@web.de> <878tb72zgl.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520265376 21516 195.159.176.226 (5 Mar 2018 15:56:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 15:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 18059@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 05 16:56:12 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1essT8-0004XE-HR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 16:56:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50113 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1essV9-0008W7-KP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47913) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1essV0-0008Tn-Pe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:58:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1essUz-0008Nu-Ul for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:58:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1essUz-0008Nl-SO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:58:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1essUz-0002ge-MY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:58:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18059 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 18059-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18059.152026547410314 (code B ref 18059); Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18059) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2018 15:57:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46105 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1essUr-0002gI-PK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:57:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56865) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1essUr-0002g6-4I for 18059@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:57:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1essUl-0008B3-12 for 18059@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55448) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1essUe-000836-7G; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:57:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4573 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1essUd-0007cv-Id; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:57:40 -0500 In-reply-to: <878tb72zgl.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Sun, 04 Mar 2018 18:27:54 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:143923 Archived-At: > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 18:27:54 -0500 > Cc: 18059@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier > > > Then we should document that use case. > > Yes, you're right. Since this case really relates more to the lexical > vs dynamic binding, I think it would make more sense to add the example > in a later section (with a link, of course). I still don't think I can > claim with a straight face that (let (_) (defvar foo) ...) being > different than (let () (defvar foo) ...) is not a bug though. Thanks. > +For a more elaborate example of using @code{defvar} without a value, > +@xref{Local defvar example}. @xref is inappropriate in the middle of a sentence; please use "see @ref" instead.