From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31138: Native json slower than json.el Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:37:36 +0300 Message-ID: <837ebnabkf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sh806xwa.fsf@chapu.is> <83r2awnw0w.fsf@gnu.org> <83d0mgnn31.fsf@gnu.org> <835zs7och6.fsf@gnu.org> <83tvfqnbxc.fsf@gnu.org> <83lg12n75s.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8bqn2ik.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhphliil.fsf@gnu.org> <181b93a3-3861-0481-1b95-8344410d1049@yandex.ru> <83r2a2hdxn.fsf@gnu.org> <21f68973-a684-2a65-82eb-c8f3df90127f@yandex.ru> <83d0lmgez2.fsf@gnu.org> <7d503be9-4d85-3d0b-6829-631ad376ba3d@yandex.ru> <831s22gcci.fsf@gnu.org> <83y349gasn.fsf@gnu.org> <83d0lfag4x.fsf@gnu.org> <5cf45a21-65c3-67ee-f123-be83a6ee7c99@yandex.ru> <83a7gjaen6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="17087"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: sebastien@chapu.is, dgutov@yandex.ru, 31138@debbugs.gnu.org To: yyoncho Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 21 12:38:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9rO-0004L1-Oq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:38:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51454 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9rN-0006oT-MJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:38:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33491) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9rH-0006oM-8c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:38:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9rG-0005Dy-Cg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9rG-0005Dj-9T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9rG-0004Bq-2k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:38:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 10:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31138 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 31138-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31138.155584308016097 (code B ref 31138); Sun, 21 Apr 2019 10:38:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31138) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2019 10:38:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9rD-0004BZ-SU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:38:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47325) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9r9-0004BE-EA for 31138@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:37:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47836) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9r3-000592-J2; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3655 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hI9r2-0002Zi-M4; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 06:37:49 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from yyoncho on Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:23:28 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:157937 Archived-At: > From: yyoncho > Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:23:28 +0300 > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Sébastien Chapuis , > 31138@debbugs.gnu.org > > IMO if validation of the data that comes from external libraries is taking a lot of time then it does not make > sense to use external libraries at all when we are aiming for performance gains. I don't see how this follows, when this discussion clearly established that native JSON parsing is much faster than parsing in Lisp. I also don't see where did "a lot of time" come from, I think it's an exaggeration, given the processing speed shown by benchmarks in this discussion. There's still some peculiar slowdown in your configuration, which AFAIR couldn't be reproduced from "emacs -Q"; I still hope you will be able to find what causes that. As for the more general point: we always decode strings, even in UTF-8 locales, so I don't see how this case is different.