From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3179: Entering Chinese "zero": add U+3007 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:51:35 +0300 Message-ID: <837e56gwuw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r5z8vgp1.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> <87my9wvf0r.fsf@jidanni.org> <87eezga3oy.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2xnb72s.fsf@gmail.com> <87r23fw1jk.fsf@gnus.org> <87tv8bawfr.fsf@gmail.com> <87pnizt59w.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8yjavbc.fsf@gmail.com> <874l0bt4h6.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8yih1ak.fsf@gnu.org> <87wod6pg6n.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="178156"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 3179@debbugs.gnu.org, stepnem@gmail.com, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 15 12:05:05 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJhQ-000kCG-7y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:05:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39252 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJhP-0007a5-2C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 06:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40032) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJUp-0002bv-D7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJUo-0004DK-Gb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33945) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJUo-0004DE-DX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJUo-0002bA-Ay for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3179 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 3179-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3179.15711331139974 (code B ref 3179); Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3179) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2019 09:51:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42766 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJUf-0002ao-Gq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJUd-0002ab-9t for 3179@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:51:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43761) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJUX-00049B-6x; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:51:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2434 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iKJUU-00060R-H0; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:51:44 -0400 In-reply-to: <87wod6pg6n.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 15 Oct 2019 10:26:56 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169375 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: stepnem@gmail.com, 3179@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 10:26:56 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I don't understand this decision. None of us knows enough about these > > particular characters to tell U+25CB was a mistake (it was there since > > day one of leim-ext.el), and the OP asked for _addition_ of U+3007. > > So why did we replace instead of adding? > > We had the opinions of two people (Ming Hua over at > the Debian debbugs and Štěpán here) that IDEOGRAPHIC NUMBER ZERO made > sense while WHITE CIRCLE didn't, so it didn't seem controversial. Ming Hua gave no reasoning, and Štěpán said U+3007 is the standard way to write ideographic zero. But why should we assume the intent here was to use the ideographic zero? (And the original file had U+25CB there, in ISO-2022 encoding, that's definitely correct.)