From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32931: time-stamp-format: offer numeric time zones too Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 16:33:58 +0200 Message-ID: <837e4bg3hl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zhvvwatd.fsf@jidanni.org> <26918.1573058926@quatro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="27781"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 32931@debbugs.gnu.org, stepheng+emacs@gildea.com, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 07 15:40:59 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iSiy3-00073b-2v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:40:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43550 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSiy1-0002Dw-OB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:40:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49101) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSisJ-0003Wm-IH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:35:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSisI-0005Ta-GK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33044) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSisI-0005TU-Ci for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSisI-0002wD-98 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:35:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 14:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32931 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 32931-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32931.157313726111216 (code B ref 32931); Thu, 07 Nov 2019 14:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32931) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2019 14:34:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41861 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSirb-0002up-ES for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:34:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSirZ-0002uc-RQ for 32931@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:34:18 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSirU-0004gq-2l; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:34:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2111 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iSirS-0006dy-6b; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:34:11 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Robert Pluim on Thu, 07 Nov 2019 10:02:06 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171078 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 10:02:06 +0100 > Cc: 32931@debbugs.gnu.org, > 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > If youʼre going to be making changes without documenting them, the > least you can do is follow the commit format conventions. > > I donʼt see any reason for not documenting this, you can make it clear > that people mixing emacs 26 and 27 need to be careful. Indeed, please be sure to mention such changes in NEWS. Bonus points for updating the relevant manual(s) as well. We had in the past important changes that were left undocumented because we forgot to update NEWS and the manuals when the code was added. So I'd like to urge everybody to please go extra mile and push documentation changes together with code changes. TIA