* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
@ 2020-05-09 8:30 Philipp Stephani
2020-05-09 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-28 14:48 ` Mauro Aranda
0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Philipp Stephani @ 2020-05-09 8:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 41145
M-x customize-group RET display-fill-column-indicator RET, then expand
the section for `display-fill-column-indicator-character'. The
customization buffer then contains:
Display Fill Column Indicator group: Group definition missing.
State : visible group members are all at standard values.
[...]
Hide display-fill-column-indicator-character: nil
State : STANDARD. (mismatch)
Character to draw the indicator when ‘display-fill-column-indicator’ is non-nil. More
The two issues here are:
1. "Group definition missing." It looks like customizing this group
should load `display-fill-column-indicator-mode', which defines this
group, or the group definition should be in cus-start.el.
2. "(mismatch)." The default value for
`display-fill-column-indicator-character' is nil, but its type is
`character', so nil isn't allowed.
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2020-05-09 8:30 bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group Philipp Stephani
@ 2020-05-09 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 12:31 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-28 14:48 ` Mauro Aranda
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-05-09 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philipp Stephani; +Cc: 41145
> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 10:30:13 +0200
>
> The two issues here are:
>
> 1. "Group definition missing." It looks like customizing this group
> should load `display-fill-column-indicator-mode', which defines this
> group, or the group definition should be in cus-start.el.
The same seems to work for display-line-numbers, and I don't think I
see the crucial difference.
> 2. "(mismatch)." The default value for
> `display-fill-column-indicator-character' is nil, but its type is
> `character', so nil isn't allowed.
I fixed this, thanks.
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* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-05-09 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-05-09 12:31 ` Philipp Stephani
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Philipp Stephani @ 2020-05-09 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 41145
Am Sa., 9. Mai 2020 um 11:37 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
>
> > From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 10:30:13 +0200
> >
> > The two issues here are:
> >
> > 1. "Group definition missing." It looks like customizing this group
> > should load `display-fill-column-indicator-mode', which defines this
> > group, or the group definition should be in cus-start.el.
> The same seems to work for display-line-numbers, and I don't think I
> see the crucial difference.
My guess is that something is wrong with cus-dep.el, because the f-c-i
group doesn't appear in cus-load.el.
>
> > 2. "(mismatch)." The default value for
> > `display-fill-column-indicator-character' is nil, but its type is
> > `character', so nil isn't allowed.
>
> I fixed this, thanks.
Thanks
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* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-05-09 8:30 bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group Philipp Stephani
2020-05-09 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-08-28 14:48 ` Mauro Aranda
2020-08-29 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Mauro Aranda @ 2020-08-28 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 10:30:13 +0200
>>
>> The two issues here are:
>>
>> 1. "Group definition missing." It looks like customizing this group
>> should load `display-fill-column-indicator-mode', which defines this
>> group, or the group definition should be in cus-start.el.
> The same seems to work for display-line-numbers, and I don't think I
> see the crucial difference.
I did some debugging and found that the difference is that there are no
custom options or faces defined in display-fill-column-indicator.el:
fill-column-indicator is in faces.el and
display-fill-column-indicator, display-fill-column-indicator-character
and display-fill-column-indicator-column are in xdisp.c
custom-make-dependencies doesn't go through faces.el, since it's
preloaded, so it doesn't record the custom-where property into
fill-column-indicator.
And since cus-dep.el doesn't require cus-start, fill-column-indicator is
the only member of the custom-group property of
display-fill-column-indicator, so there is no way
custom-make-dependencies will record the custom-where property into any
of the options defined in xdisp.c.
So later on, when looking for a custom-where property in the members of
the display-fill-column-indicator group, we find nothing, resulting in
no custom-loads thingy for display-fill-column-indicator.
The problem goes away if we require cus-start in cus-dep, or if we
record into the custom-loads the file where to find the custom-group.
That is, add in the first mapatoms call something like this:
(when (get symbol 'custom-where)
(push (get symbol 'custom-where) found))
Or if eventually a defface or a defcustom makes its way into
display-fill-column-indicator.el, of course.
Note that adding the above form will result in adding cus-edit to the
custom-loads property of the groups defined in cus-edit (like editing,
convenience, etc.). I don't know if that is harmless.
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* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-28 14:48 ` Mauro Aranda
@ 2020-08-29 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-29 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-08-29 6:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mauro Aranda, Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 41145, p.stephani2
> From: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 11:48:57 -0300
> Cc: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>, 41145@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 10:30:13 +0200
> >>
> >> The two issues here are:
> >>
> >> 1. "Group definition missing." It looks like customizing this group
> >> should load `display-fill-column-indicator-mode', which defines this
> >> group, or the group definition should be in cus-start.el.
> > The same seems to work for display-line-numbers, and I don't think I
> > see the crucial difference.
>
> I did some debugging and found that the difference is that there are no
> custom options or faces defined in display-fill-column-indicator.el:
> fill-column-indicator is in faces.el and
> display-fill-column-indicator, display-fill-column-indicator-character
> and display-fill-column-indicator-column are in xdisp.c
>
> custom-make-dependencies doesn't go through faces.el, since it's
> preloaded, so it doesn't record the custom-where property into
> fill-column-indicator.
> And since cus-dep.el doesn't require cus-start, fill-column-indicator is
> the only member of the custom-group property of
> display-fill-column-indicator, so there is no way
> custom-make-dependencies will record the custom-where property into any
> of the options defined in xdisp.c.
>
> So later on, when looking for a custom-where property in the members of
> the display-fill-column-indicator group, we find nothing, resulting in
> no custom-loads thingy for display-fill-column-indicator.
>
> The problem goes away if we require cus-start in cus-dep, or if we
> record into the custom-loads the file where to find the custom-group.
> That is, add in the first mapatoms call something like this:
> (when (get symbol 'custom-where)
> (push (get symbol 'custom-where) found))
>
> Or if eventually a defface or a defcustom makes its way into
> display-fill-column-indicator.el, of course.
>
> Note that adding the above form will result in adding cus-edit to the
> custom-loads property of the groups defined in cus-edit (like editing,
> convenience, etc.). I don't know if that is harmless.
Stefan, any suggestions regarding which solution route is preferable?
Thanks.
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* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-29 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-08-29 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-29 16:23 ` Mauro Aranda
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-08-29 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 41145, p.stephani2, Mauro Aranda
>> I did some debugging and found that the difference is that there are no
>> custom options or faces defined in display-fill-column-indicator.el:
>> fill-column-indicator is in faces.el and
>> display-fill-column-indicator, display-fill-column-indicator-character
>> and display-fill-column-indicator-column are in xdisp.c
Which begs the question: why define the group there?
>> Or if eventually a defface or a defcustom makes its way into
>> display-fill-column-indicator.el, of course.
Actually, there is a defcustom there (in the expansion of
`define-globalized-minor-mode`).
>> Note that adding the above form will result in adding cus-edit to the
>> custom-loads property of the groups defined in cus-edit (like editing,
>> convenience, etc.). I don't know if that is harmless.
>
> Stefan, any suggestions regarding which solution route is preferable?
I'd get rid of the file and move its content to one of the
preloaded files (simple.el? faces.el? fill.el? ...)
Stefan
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2020-08-29 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-08-29 16:23 ` Mauro Aranda
2020-08-30 3:58 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Mauro Aranda @ 2020-08-29 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani
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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>> Or if eventually a defface or a defcustom makes its way into
>>> display-fill-column-indicator.el, of course.
>
> Actually, there is a defcustom there (in the expansion of
> `define-globalized-minor-mode`).
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. There is no defcustom or defface whose
:group is display-fill-column-indicator.
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* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-29 16:23 ` Mauro Aranda
@ 2020-08-30 3:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 11:52 ` Mauro Aranda
2020-08-30 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-08-30 3:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mauro Aranda; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani
>>>> Or if eventually a defface or a defcustom makes its way into
>>>> display-fill-column-indicator.el, of course.
>>
>> Actually, there is a defcustom there (in the expansion of
>> `define-globalized-minor-mode`).
>
> Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. There is no defcustom or defface whose
> :group is display-fill-column-indicator.
`global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode` should definitely belong to
the `display-fill-column-indicator` group (because the `defcustom`
doesn't have an explicit `:group` so it should fallback to using the
last-defined group).
BTW, another quick-fix might be to move the defface definition to
display-fill-column-indicator.el.
Stefan
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2020-08-30 3:58 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-08-30 11:52 ` Mauro Aranda
2020-08-30 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Mauro Aranda @ 2020-08-30 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani
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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>>>> Or if eventually a defface or a defcustom makes its way into
>>>>> display-fill-column-indicator.el, of course.
>>>
>>> Actually, there is a defcustom there (in the expansion of
>>> `define-globalized-minor-mode`).
>>
>> Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. There is no defcustom or defface whose
>> :group is display-fill-column-indicator.
>
> `global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode` should definitely belong to
> the `display-fill-column-indicator` group (because the `defcustom`
> doesn't have an explicit `:group` so it should fallback to using the
> last-defined group).
Is it, though?
emacs -Q
M-x customize-option RET global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode
And near the end of buffer I read:
Groups: Global Display Fill Column Indicator
Furthermore, the list
(global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode custom-variable) is not a
member of the custom-group property of display-fill-column-indicator.
> BTW, another quick-fix might be to move the defface definition to
> display-fill-column-indicator.el.
Right.
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* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-30 11:52 ` Mauro Aranda
@ 2020-08-30 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-08-30 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mauro Aranda; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani
>> `global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode` should definitely belong to
>> the `display-fill-column-indicator` group (because the `defcustom`
>> doesn't have an explicit `:group` so it should fallback to using the
>> last-defined group).
>
> Is it, though?
> emacs -Q
> M-x customize-option RET global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode
> And near the end of buffer I read:
> Groups: Global Display Fill Column Indicator
Oh, indeed, it's an old misfeature that was introduced by our
idiot-in-chief (tho to my defense, I think it made some sense back then
because `defcustom` did not have a useful default for `:group`).
We can fix it either by adding `:group 'display-fill-column-indicator`
to the `define-globalized-minor-mode` or by getting rid of the
misfeature, as in the patch below (this patch will likely fix a few
other similar cases).
Eli?
Stefan
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
index 24c9e79f2c..e3eb9294ed 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
@@ -157,9 +157,6 @@ define-minor-mode
the minor mode is global):
:group GROUP Custom group name to use in all generated `defcustom' forms.
- Defaults to MODE without the possible trailing \"-mode\".
- Don't use this default group name unless you have written a
- `defgroup' to define that group properly.
:global GLOBAL If non-nil specifies that the minor mode is not meant to be
buffer-local, so don't make the variable MODE buffer-local.
By default, the mode is buffer-local.
@@ -262,12 +259,6 @@ define-minor-mode
(unless initialize
(setq initialize '(:initialize 'custom-initialize-default)))
- (unless group
- ;; We might as well provide a best-guess default group.
- (setq group
- `(:group ',(intern (replace-regexp-in-string
- "-mode\\'" "" mode-name)))))
-
;; TODO? Mark booleans as safe if booleanp? Eg abbrev-mode.
(unless type (setq type '(:type 'boolean)))
^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-30 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-08-30 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-30 17:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 15:09 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-11 23:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-08-30 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 41145, p.stephani2, maurooaranda
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>,
> 41145@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 10:51:23 -0400
>
> > emacs -Q
> > M-x customize-option RET global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode
> > And near the end of buffer I read:
> > Groups: Global Display Fill Column Indicator
>
> Oh, indeed, it's an old misfeature that was introduced by our
> idiot-in-chief (tho to my defense, I think it made some sense back then
> because `defcustom` did not have a useful default for `:group`).
>
> We can fix it either by adding `:group 'display-fill-column-indicator`
> to the `define-globalized-minor-mode` or by getting rid of the
> misfeature, as in the patch below (this patch will likely fix a few
> other similar cases).
>
> Eli?
How about doing the former on emacs-27, and the latter on master?
Thanks.
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* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-30 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-08-30 17:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-04 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-08-30 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 41145, p.stephani2, maurooaranda
>> > emacs -Q
>> > M-x customize-option RET global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode
>> > And near the end of buffer I read:
>> > Groups: Global Display Fill Column Indicator
>>
>> Oh, indeed, it's an old misfeature that was introduced by our
>> idiot-in-chief (tho to my defense, I think it made some sense back then
>> because `defcustom` did not have a useful default for `:group`).
>>
>> We can fix it either by adding `:group 'display-fill-column-indicator`
>> to the `define-globalized-minor-mode` or by getting rid of the
>> misfeature, as in the patch below (this patch will likely fix a few
>> other similar cases).
>>
>> Eli?
>
> How about doing the former on emacs-27, and the latter on master?
Oh, indeed, I did not intend to change define-minor-mode on the
emacs-27 branch.
So, we have a deal!
Stefan
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2020-08-30 17:03 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-09-04 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-04 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-09-04 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 41145, p.stephani2, maurooaranda
>> How about doing the former on emacs-27, and the latter on master?
> Oh, indeed, I did not intend to change define-minor-mode on the
> emacs-27 branch.
> So, we have a deal!
O, so I looked into fixing it on `emacs-27` and it's not quite as
straightforward as I thought. Here's the patch that I have currently,
because without that `cus-dep.el` patch, the
`define-globalized-minor-mode` is just completely ignored by
cus-dep anyway.
I think it's quite safe, but I'd like to make sure you agree this is
acceptable for `emacs-27`.
Stefan
diff --git a/lisp/cus-dep.el b/lisp/cus-dep.el
index fd307a5c04..e2fd7febd2 100644
--- a/lisp/cus-dep.el
+++ b/lisp/cus-dep.el
@@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ custom-make-dependencies
(setq name (intern name)))
(condition-case nil
(while (re-search-forward
- "^(def\\(custom\\|face\\|group\\)" nil t)
+ "^(def\\(custom\\|face\\|group\\|ine\\(?:-globalized\\)?-minor-mode\\)" nil t)
(beginning-of-line)
(let ((type (match-string 1))
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diff --git a/lisp/display-fill-column-indicator.el b/lisp/display-fill-column-indicator.el
index 3f947bdc1c..3391aa371b 100644
--- a/lisp/display-fill-column-indicator.el
+++ b/lisp/display-fill-column-indicator.el
@@ -73,7 +73,9 @@ display-fill-column-indicator--turn-on
;;;###autoload
(define-globalized-minor-mode global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode
- display-fill-column-indicator-mode display-fill-column-indicator--turn-on)
+ display-fill-column-indicator-mode display-fill-column-indicator--turn-on
+ ;; See bug#41145
+ :group 'display-fill-column-indicator)
(provide 'display-fill-column-indicator)
^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-09-04 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-09-04 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-04 12:47 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-09-04 7:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 41145, p.stephani2, maurooaranda
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: 41145@debbugs.gnu.org, p.stephani2@gmail.com, maurooaranda@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:24:14 -0400
>
> >> How about doing the former on emacs-27, and the latter on master?
> > Oh, indeed, I did not intend to change define-minor-mode on the
> > emacs-27 branch.
> > So, we have a deal!
>
> O, so I looked into fixing it on `emacs-27` and it's not quite as
> straightforward as I thought. Here's the patch that I have currently,
> because without that `cus-dep.el` patch, the
> `define-globalized-minor-mode` is just completely ignored by
> cus-dep anyway.
>
> I think it's quite safe, but I'd like to make sure you agree this is
> acceptable for `emacs-27`.
Yes, LGTM. Thanks.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-30 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-08-30 15:09 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-11 23:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2020-08-30 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier, Mauro Aranda; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani
FWIW, I've said it before, and reiterate now: I
think :group should always be explicitly present.
We've gone to the other extreme, of not only
encouraging its removal (apart from an initial
occurrence), but even removing it from patches
that contained it.
Why do I feel this way? Repeating what I've
said before:
1. Nothing is really gained. The amount of
additional text eliminated is trivial - tiny.
2. A defcustom that's not near a previous one
has its :group unclear (for humans).
3. It's problematic and error prone wrt moving
defcustoms around.
It doesn't hurt, and it can help human readers
to just include explicit :group.
Whether that should just be conventional (i.e.,
recommended/encouraged) or actually enforced is
a different question. I'm not sure it needs to
be enforced (e.g. warning or error msg), but I
don't think that would hurt, and it might help.
Just one opinion. I repeat it here only because
I haven't mentioned it in a long time - probably
not since the crusade to remove "unnecessary"
:groups was initiated.
(And no, this is not very important. Just sayin.)
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-30 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-30 15:09 ` Drew Adams
@ 2020-09-11 23:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-12 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2020-09-11 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani, Mauro Aranda
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> - (unless group
> - ;; We might as well provide a best-guess default group.
> - (setq group
> - `(:group ',(intern (replace-regexp-in-string
> - "-mode\\'" "" mode-name)))))
> -
After this change I have to specify a group for every define-minor-mode
in my init file, otherwise I'm flooded with warnings. It's a bit
annoying. I don't care about groups there since I don't use customize
myself at all. What's the suggestion to handle this use case?
Michael.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-09-11 23:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2020-09-12 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-12 18:51 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-09-12 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani, Mauro Aranda
>> - (unless group
>> - ;; We might as well provide a best-guess default group.
>> - (setq group
>> - `(:group ',(intern (replace-regexp-in-string
>> - "-mode\\'" "" mode-name)))))
>
> After this change I have to specify a group for every define-minor-mode
> in my init file, otherwise I'm flooded with warnings.
Hmm... so you have `define-minor-mode`s in your init file? That sounds
rather unusual [ And "flooded" suggests you have very many. ]
> It's a bit annoying. I don't care about groups there since I don't
> use customize myself at all. What's the suggestion to handle this
> use case?
Add a dummy `defgroup` at the beginning of the file?
Stefan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-09-12 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-09-12 18:51 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2020-09-12 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 41145, Philipp Stephani, Mauro Aranda
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> Hmm... so you have `define-minor-mode`s in your init file? That
> sounds rather unusual [ And "flooded" suggests you have very many. ]
Yes, 20. Part of my private config, for my own usage. I'm a bit
surprised that you think that's unusual.
> Add a dummy `defgroup` at the beginning of the file?
Ok, will give it a try.
Thanks,
Michael.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41145: 27.0.91; small issues with `display-fill-column-indicator' Customization group
2020-08-30 3:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 11:52 ` Mauro Aranda
@ 2020-08-30 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-08-30 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 41145, p.stephani2, maurooaranda
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>,
> 41145@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 23:58:04 -0400
>
> >>>> Or if eventually a defface or a defcustom makes its way into
> >>>> display-fill-column-indicator.el, of course.
> >>
> >> Actually, there is a defcustom there (in the expansion of
> >> `define-globalized-minor-mode`).
> >
> > Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. There is no defcustom or defface whose
> > :group is display-fill-column-indicator.
>
> `global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode` should definitely belong to
> the `display-fill-column-indicator` group (because the `defcustom`
> doesn't have an explicit `:group` so it should fallback to using the
> last-defined group).
So you are saying this should have worked as it is?
> BTW, another quick-fix might be to move the defface definition to
> display-fill-column-indicator.el.
The idea was not to require display-fill-column-indicator.el be loaded
to activate the feature.
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