From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48342: native-comp emacs gets into an infinite loop at startup if no .el files are available Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 23:23:53 +0300 Message-ID: <837dk53tpi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878s4l1zlt.fsf@secretsauce.net> <875yzp1wz0.fsf@secretsauce.net> <834kf95u1z.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgx1yya7.fsf@secretsauce.net> <83r1id414v.fsf@gnu.org> <87tun9yx00.fsf@secretsauce.net> <83k0o53x1x.fsf@gnu.org> <83eeed3v78.fsf@gnu.org> <87lf8lyrc0.fsf@secretsauce.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20533"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gregory@heytings.org, 48342@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org To: Dima Kogan Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 11 22:24:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYvI-0005E8-Uo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 22:24:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52688 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYvI-00009o-0W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 16:24:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYvB-00009L-T6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 16:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54279) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYvB-00020L-MQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 16:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYvB-000329-IN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 16:24:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 20:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48342 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48342-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48342.162076463911654 (code B ref 48342); Tue, 11 May 2021 20:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48342) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2021 20:23:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37592 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYv9-00031t-2e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 16:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYv3-00031c-Fi for 48342@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 16:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37210) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYux-0001pm-48; Tue, 11 May 2021 16:23:47 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1575 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgYuw-0006QZ-Nt; Tue, 11 May 2021 16:23:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lf8lyrc0.fsf@secretsauce.net> (message from Dima Kogan on Tue, 11 May 2021 12:59:27 -0700) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206292 Archived-At: > From: Dima Kogan > Cc: Gregory Heytings , 48342@debbugs.gnu.org, > akrl@sdf.org > Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 12:59:27 -0700 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Imagine the plight of a user who needs to discover all these places > > just to have the sources available. > > I suppose you have a point, but this concern is much bigger than just > emacs. That there's a larger problem out there doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to get our act together in our small corner. It isn't a justification, not IMO anyway.