From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54993: 28.1; Editing etc/NEWS on master with Emacs 28 signals an error Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 13:45:04 +0300 Message-ID: <837d7mwtzj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83czhfy583.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtgj7dxa.fsf@gnus.org> <8335iby288.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6cj7d75.fsf@gnus.org> <83v8v7wmgh.fsf@gnu.org> <878rs2dbtn.fsf@gmx.de> <83ee1uwxl5.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8v6bt5v.fsf@gmx.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30198"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 54993@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 18 12:46:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOtY-0007kT-LQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 12:46:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38560 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOtX-0007jL-2a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 06:46:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59818) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOtO-0007h0-MR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 06:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44264) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOtO-00023k-CY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 06:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOtO-00028S-4F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 06:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 10:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54993 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 54993-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54993.16502787348168 (code B ref 54993); Mon, 18 Apr 2022 10:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54993) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2022 10:45:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38161 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOsw-00027g-4d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 06:45:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38124) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOsu-00027U-NM for 54993@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 06:45:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOsp-0001yu-4F; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 06:45:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ybfJB3NSQqnnhjoXzvN1P964bzeadt7tbiZ/FZQOli8=; b=b3YV3ZDr0RuU I9Glx7mPJi7wC+vNb6fnffuuhHUNcmOTyBPcmifsMEkdxy8xkMY2IS+Sk806AqLtQ5wqT2du6GHK5 QUe4pYvNX0S7T1PnDP7pfBACvlGUKvYP9P1tyMru/MwDp2L8fKifV1o8eLwxF/k65NqRosh3uszAE O5wcJEFU5A78DbQnknJsTgLm1w/U2hDOc5TeQe3Da4z/yUYvuywrTFveRIQEwRETh4aBBVzqhHnoT CSy0Vn68CeOlj7z3Uy6l+vMXz6clFUvF2KyeVcQD2Q0NpVrohuklVGNW152F5XBfYiGLhkzd8Pnym l+EE/jerT/HN42TfyNBHPQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1036 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngOsf-0005vZ-63; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 06:45:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87v8v6bt5v.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Mon, 18 Apr 2022 12:08:28 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:230163 Archived-At: > From: Michael Albinus > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 54993@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 12:08:28 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Hi Eli, > > >> FTR, I find the new emacs-news-mode very convenient. Hiding it in > >> private customizations would remove its convenience. > > > > ??? How's that? You make that customization once, and then get to > > enjoy the convenience happily ever after. What am I missing? > > > > The customization I had in mind is to tell Emacs to turn on > > emacs-news-mode when you visit a file called "NEWS". > > Midterm, I have the hope to extend emacs-news-mode for some checks when > adding something to etc/NEWS. Something like checking proper quotation > etc. > > However, this works only when this mode is enabled. If we need to tell > every occasional contributor to enable this mode, it would be less useful. We could add NEWS to auto-mode-alist instead, and that would solve the issue cleanly for everyone. That was one of the original alternatives, but somehow it was forgotten now. Btw, another issue with emacs-news-mode is that it invokes outline-minor-mode, which means all the headings-related commands are now bound to different keys than they were before. Wouldn't it be better if emacs-news-mode were a minor mode invoked by Outline instead?