From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc. Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 17:22:17 +0300 Message-ID: <836188tobq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1430701990-31993-1-git-send-email-eggert@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430749405 6545 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2015 14:23:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 14:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 20499@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 16:23:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YpHH6-0001tg-F8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 16:23:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34428 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpHH5-0002a2-Td for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 10:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpHH2-0002Zl-HS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 10:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpHGw-0002c2-FU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 10:23:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52050) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpHGw-0002by-D4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 10:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YpHGw-0000Re-5Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 10:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 14:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20499 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 20499-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20499.14307493431658 (code B ref 20499); Mon, 04 May 2015 14:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20499) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2015 14:22:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YpHGJ-0000Qf-7w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 10:22:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:41101) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YpHGG-0000QP-Qz for 20499@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 10:22:22 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NNT00F00WMFAZ00@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 20499@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 17:13:28 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NNT00AV4WUG0R50@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Mon, 04 May 2015 17:13:28 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <1430701990-31993-1-git-send-email-eggert@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102444 Archived-At: > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:13:10 -0700 > Cc: Paul Eggert > > Although C-x 8 lets you insert arbitrary Unicode characters, it's > awkward to use this to insert commonly used symbols such as curved > quotes, the Euro symbol, etc. This patch adds simpler sequences for > ISO 8859-15 characters (which includes the Euro), plus characters that > are commonly found in English text and in basic math. For example, > assuming the Alt key works on your keyboard and iso-transl is loaded, > one can now type "A-[" instead of "A-RET LEFT SIN TAB RET" to get the > character "‘" (U+2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK). > * doc/emacs/mule.texi (Unibyte Mode), etc/NEWS: Latin-9 and a few > other printing characters now work too. > * lisp/international/iso-transl.el (iso-transl-char-map): > Also support ISO 8859-15 characters (e.g., "€"), plus the characters > "–—‘’“”†‡•′″←→↔−≈≠≤≥" which are commonly used in English text > or basic math. Shouldn't we prefer input methods instead? We already have a plethora of Latin-N-something input methods (including latin-9-prefix), so why not add more characters there, instead of using iso-transl? I think input methods generally get less in your way.