From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 18:59:43 +0300 Message-ID: <8360vsjdlc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87oa9otixb.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5703E15B.7080601@cs.ucla.edu> <87k2kcovt8.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5704233B.4020103@cs.ucla.edu> <8737qzso88.fsf@russet.org.uk> <57045765.4000309@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3ei8vz9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5705B246.10201@cs.ucla.edu> <5706764D.2010708@cs.ucla.edu> <282e74a937853505fddfea446c9bc46e.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <57067BF6.6000700@cs.ucla.edu> <83bn5ll5i8.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8l5kypx.fsf@gnu.org> <837fg8lh49.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460131275 20451 80.91.229.3 (8 Apr 2016 16:01:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 16:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 20484@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 20202@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 08 18:01:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYqP-0001Ar-B3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 18:01:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56925 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYqO-00015t-R2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:01:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYqJ-00013j-0E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYqE-00070h-Ve for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:01:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYqE-00070d-Sg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYqE-00013Q-MR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 16:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20484 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20484-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20484.14601312374003 (code B ref 20484); Fri, 08 Apr 2016 16:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20484) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Apr 2016 16:00:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYpp-00012V-6R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:00:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYpo-00012J-6X for 20484@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:00:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYpf-0006tU-7l for 20484@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47077) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYpS-0006r8-Fq; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:00:14 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4641 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aoYpR-0002Le-4B; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:00:13 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Fri, 08 Apr 2016 11:32:08 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116218 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Stefan Monnier , phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 20484@debbugs.gnu.org, 20202@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 11:32:08 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Maybe so, but I don't see any problem with that. We just tried to > > make the wait shorter, and see what happened. We should try again in > > few years, maybe the results will be better then. Hopefully. > > Waiting won't do anything. One should actively contact maintainers of > affected packages. It's our fault, not theirs. We already did. "Waiting" here means wait until the old versions of the shells die peacefully and people stop using them.