From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31339: 25.3.50; package-list-packages does not provide useful error when gnutls-cli is missing Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 17:52:03 +0300 Message-ID: <836046qfe4.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1525272666 4981 195.159.176.226 (2 May 2018 14:51:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 14:51:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31339@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eric Hanchrow Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 02 16:51:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fDt5x-0001BT-K7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 02 May 2018 10:52:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48599) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fDt74-0004dS-Cm; Wed, 02 May 2018 10:52:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4598 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fDt73-0004hI-Pz; Wed, 02 May 2018 10:52:10 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Eric Hanchrow on Wed, 02 May 2018 02:33:39 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:145926 Archived-At: > From: Eric Hanchrow > Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 02:33:39 +0000 > > I typed "M-x package-list-packages", and saw complaints about ... > > Opening TLS connection to ‘melpa.org’... > Opening TLS connection with ‘gnutls-cli --x509cafile > /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt -p 443 melpa.org’...failed > Opening TLS connection with ‘gnutls-cli --x509cafile > /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt -p 443 melpa.org --protocols ssl3’...failed > Opening TLS connection with ‘openssl s_client -connect melpa.org:443 > -CAfile /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt -no_ssl2 -ign_eof’...failed > Opening TLS connection to ‘melpa.org’...failed > Package refresh done > Failed to download ‘melpa’ archive. > > I eventually realized that the problem was simply due to my not having a > gnutls-cli executable! But it took me longer to realize that than it > should have. OK, I confess; it took me _two years_ to realize that > (seriously). I'd just assumed that the problem was some subtle certificate > mismatch or something that I'd never understand, and I put up with it. > > Would it be possible to emit a message describing _why_ gnutls-cli failed? Actually, we deprecated tls.el and gnutls-cli, and we now ask users to build Emacs with the GnuTLS library, which enables these features internally. I don't think investing efforts in improving a deprecated feature would be a good investment of our resources. Thanks.