From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46853: Confusing terminology "face height" instead of "font size" Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:06:14 +0200 Message-ID: <835z2a952x.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8494"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46853@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 01 18:07:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lGm11-00024n-1R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:07:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44236 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lGm10-0001sT-1s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:07:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60040) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lGm0c-0001om-5E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:07:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39127) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lGm0b-0004V3-U8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:07:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lGm0b-0007S3-OU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:07:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2021 17:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46853 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46853-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46853.161461838628583 (code B ref 46853); Mon, 01 Mar 2021 17:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46853) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2021 17:06:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50667 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lGm02-0007Qx-3H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:06:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lGm00-0007Qk-PH for 46853@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:06:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lGlzu-0004Dl-7h; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:06:19 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2762 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lGlzt-0007od-JS; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:06:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 1 Mar 2021 10:40:07 -0600) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:201131 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 10:40:07 -0600 > > I suggest changing the terminology "face height" to "font size" in user > documentation and messages. For example, the documentation for > `text-scale-adjust' currently says: > > "Adjust the height of the default face by INC." > > This is harder than it needs to be to understand, since the rest of the > world actually talks about "increase font size". IOW, it would be more > clear if it said: > > "Adjust the font size in the current buffer by INC steps." It's okay to make that change in this example, but one example is not enough to understand what else is on the table. How about showing a patch, or at least the full list of places where you think we have similar problems? This should IMO be handled on a case by case basis anyway. > As part of this, we could also consider introducing a new property for > `defface' called :size. (Or :font-size and :font-scale which would > allow for semantics where we can specify :font-size 14 and mean 14pt > rather than 1.4pt.) I wouldn't go that far; using :height is well established in Emacs (and elsewhere, I believe: the face attributes were defined with XLFD in mind).