From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46627: [PATCH] Add new help command 'describe-command' Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2021 15:47:29 +0200 Message-ID: <835z297jm6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835z2o4fes.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0r1xwyy.fsf@gnu.org> <83blcdxqzy.fsf@gnu.org> <831rd9xox5.fsf@gnu.org> <3801b6be-dd65-c256-6c57-52894fad2b12@yandex.ru> <83pn0tw564.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0r0w2q5.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9acm7bk.fsf@gnu.org> <30bc14e5-febb-aab1-410b-5a56f9fe1843@yandex.ru> <83k0qr8l3y.fsf@gnu.org> <0e909cd9-a123-e5da-a414-0783e52ff2ad@yandex.ru> <83h7lu6s0x.fsf@gnu.org> <8c6cb6a5-dc1a-f220-c863-a54c934a3b4d@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32984"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, rms@gnu.org, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 02 14:48:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5Nh-0008Rm-UM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 14:48:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34582 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5Ng-0008FV-W9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5NZ-0008Dt-UX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40551) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5NZ-0004Pn-Mm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5NZ-0000lu-Kj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:48:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2021 13:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 46627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46627.16146928702948 (code B ref 46627); Tue, 02 Mar 2021 13:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2021 13:47:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52097 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5NN-0000lU-Nd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:47:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34958) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5NK-0000lF-KW for 46627@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:47:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40388) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5ND-0004Mq-Tq; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:47:39 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3127 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lH5N4-000671-HA; Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:47:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8c6cb6a5-dc1a-f220-c863-a54c934a3b4d@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 2 Mar 2021 14:55:26 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:201216 Archived-At: > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, rms@gnu.org, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 14:55:26 +0200 > > On 02.03.2021 07:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Perhaps I'm missing something, but if, for example, you use the > > 'initials' style, then "lch" can complete to list-command-history, but > > if you don't use 'initials', it will complete to nothing. So maybe > > you are right from the implementation POV, but the list of the > > candidates shown to the user is in fact determined by the style. And > > that displayed list is what matters for discovery; that Emacs > > internally had some other list is immaterial. > > It matters because the completion table is determined by the command in > use, and the completion style is based on user customization. > > As such, completion styles don't usually use any semantic information > about completions. We are talking past each other.