From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46926: Remove the quotes from highlighted/linked symbols when displaying docs Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:39:15 +0200 Message-ID: <835z1vjvm4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8335xa25wy.fsf@gnu.org> <_H0XqIXt1dfP3H0t7B5ffiqUQfbMsO6VjonudikF85OIm5y8BWOkrXn4_dedZzvdxv4o5Ug2rhFkFqAqNuS9-XIKRsSy2P4IBrBE5QMtK9I=@protonmail.com> <83y2f2zrz6.fsf@gnu.org> <87eeguu0q0.fsf@gnus.org> <83czw3jy72.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38211"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46926@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, rms@gnu.org To: scame Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 13 09:40:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzog-0009qR-EZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 09:40:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48548 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzof-0003uX-GC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:40:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzoY-0003uH-Kp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:40:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzoY-00008w-Cm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:40:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzoY-0002Yg-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:40:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 08:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46926.16156247699790 (code B ref 46926); Sat, 13 Mar 2021 08:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2021 08:39:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59070 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKznz-0002Xp-VZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:39:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKznx-0002Xd-T4 for 46926@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:39:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59793) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKznr-000886-Qg; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:39:19 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2327 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lKznh-0002Wx-IV; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:39:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from scame on Sat, 13 Mar 2021 07:51:11 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:202244 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 07:51:11 +0000 > From: scame > Cc: "rms@gnu.org" , "46926@debbugs.gnu.org" <46926@debbugs.gnu.org>, "larsi@gnus.org" , "stefan@marxist.se" > > > Since the quotes are present in the original doc strings (and will > > stay there, for sure), the implementation of your proposal would be to > > remove them when we generate the "buttons" (a.k.a. "links") for them > > in the Help buffer. So, if people feel that removing the quotes could > > be desired by some users, how about making it optional, by default > > off? > > The aim of this bug to make the default epxerience cleaner. > > In the first place it is not developers who should decide these things, > but visual designers. E.g. I guess Gnome has some visual designers who > create the Gnome look. They can be asked, but I'm pretty sure they > will say the cleaner look is better for users. That sounds like "my way or the highway" to me. Not very constructive, I'm afraid. Does anyone else here think the compromise I proposed could have some merit?