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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 48404@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, tsdh@gnu.org
Subject: bug#48404: 28.0.50; "Invalid version syntax" errors with read-extended-command
Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 17:27:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <835yzivjnc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cztqojsk.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun,  16 May 2021 16:06:03 +0200)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: tsdh@gnu.org,  48404@debbugs.gnu.org,  stefan@marxist.se
> Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 16:06:03 +0200
> 
> > But this comes with a heavy price: commands from any package that is
> > not bundled with Emacs will not be able to take advantage of this
> > feature, ever.  Is it worth punishing those packages' users to have a
> > softer transition?  Given our conservative approach to obsoleting
> > stuff, I'm not sure.
> 
> I'm not quite sure I understand you here?  If the version can't be
> parsed, then the command will still show up in `M-x TAB', which means
> that the obsoletion of these commands is very soft indeed.

For obsolete commands from 3rd-party packages, which state something
like "Magit 3.0" in the version since which they are obsolete, the
obsolescence will never happen, in the sense that they will _always_
appear in "M-x TAB", even 100 years from now.  Is that what we want?

> But I'm wondering whether `version-to-list' should be more lax here.
> That is, currently it'll barf of things like:
> 
> (version-to-list "28.1 Magit/2.5")

I'm not sure it's possible without introducing ambiguity into the
version string and complicating comparison of versions.  We already
support some non-numeric versions, and that's not easy.

> It might make sense to allow the obsoletion versions to refer to both an
> (approximate) Emacs version, as well as a package version.

How can this be done, even in principle?  Versions of unbundled
packages are unrelated to Emacs versions; typically, a given version
of an unbundled package supports quite a few Emacs versions.  So what
Emacs version will you put there?





  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-16 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 20:45 bug#48404: 28.0.50; "Invalid version syntax" errors with read-extended-command Tassilo Horn
2021-05-14  6:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-14  6:47   ` Tassilo Horn
2021-05-14  7:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-14  7:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-14  7:43       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-14  7:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-16 14:06           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-16 14:27             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-05-16 14:38               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-16 14:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-17 13:54                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-17 14:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-17 14:20                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-17 14:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-18 13:31                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-19 11:54                         ` Tassilo Horn
2021-05-19 13:59                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-14  7:41     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-14 16:45   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-05-14 16:51     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-14  7:50 ` bug#48404: Daniel Mendler
2021-05-14 18:31 ` bug#48404: Daniel Mendler
2021-05-16 14:09   ` bug#48404: Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-16 20:26     ` bug#48404: Daniel Mendler

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