From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49424: 27.2; Misdocumented default initialisation file Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 12:22:35 +0300 Message-ID: <835yxldusk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bl7fscid.fsf@gnus.org> <87zguybhzw.fsf@gmail.com> <995892f5-e466-ada6-a64a-e1199d4e33a6@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> <831r8aezu6.fsf@gnu.org> <05beaaf-113c-1260-e58-a4736396a765@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> <83tul5exg2.fsf@gnu.org> <79b0205e-b8c5-d11c-5b78-812c352d755@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> <83h7h5e334.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl7db3lk.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24668"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, p.d.oliver@mavit.org.uk, 49424@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 08 11:23:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QFU-0006A9-Ud for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 11:23:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58192 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QFT-0005YF-Ud for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 05:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QFK-0005We-S4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 05:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42785) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QFK-0003tX-KL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 05:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QFK-0006uL-Hb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 05:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 09:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49424 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49424-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49424.162573616726516 (code B ref 49424); Thu, 08 Jul 2021 09:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49424) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2021 09:22:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QF5-0006tc-5C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 05:22:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54658) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QF3-0006tO-G1 for 49424@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 05:22:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59746) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QEy-0003oO-94; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 05:22:40 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1748 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m1QEx-0008KW-LN; Thu, 08 Jul 2021 05:22:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bl7db3lk.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Thu, 08 Jul 2021 10:40:39 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:209665 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Peter Oliver , larsi@gnus.org, > 49424@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 10:40:39 +0200 > > Eli> The 2nd one is not what that sentence says. > > Eli> If the 1st one is incorrect, it should be fixed to reflect the truth. > Eli> But that has nothing to do with the rest of this discussion, which is > Eli> about the actual method and order Emacs uses to find the init file(s). > > FWIW I agree with Peter's interpretation here. We could avoid the > whole argument by deleting the whole sentence, since its information > content is low anyway. Deleting that would be a step back, since it was added for a reason, see the discussions about that. Specifically, we don't want to repeat the whole long description of how and where does Emacs find the init file every time we mention the init file.