From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17567: [External] : Re: bug#17567: 24.4.50; doc string of `define-derived-mode' Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 22:53:33 +0300 Message-ID: <835yuoph36.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8e27e542-96e8-4342-a761-8c066fe3d307@default> <83lf3kpkdt.fsf@gnu.org> <83ee9cpjao.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13926"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 17567@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 25 21:54:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDkP-0003PT-86 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 21:54:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50708 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDkN-0004my-NC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:54:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDkI-0004mq-Cb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDkI-0001Bu-1w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDkH-0004gM-V2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:54:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 19:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17567 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 17567-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17567.163259962117968 (code B ref 17567); Sat, 25 Sep 2021 19:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17567) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2021 19:53:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34853 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDjw-0004fk-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:53:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50764) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDjw-0004fW-0O for 17567@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:53:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDjq-0000lh-9r; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1869 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUDjp-00070O-S2; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:53:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 25 Sep 2021 19:44:50 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215521 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "stefan@marxist.se" , > "17567@debbugs.gnu.org" > <17567@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 19:44:50 +0000 > > > > As I said, if the updated doc string is posted > > > in the bug-report thread then I'll be glad to > > > check it (whether with a web browser or a mail > > > client). > > > > That's not how Emacs development works. People who want to track the > > development or participate in it are expected to access the Git > > repository. > > If you'd like me to check the fix (Stefan's request) > then please consider putting the new text in the bug > thread. Otherwise, you'll just have to do without > my review and feedback, I guess. Not a biggee (the > bug was anyway closed, without such a review). This response makes no sense to me. You don't mind writing the longest email messages ever, but refuse to type a 50-character URL into your browser? Why? But whatever. > If you refuse to put the updated doc string in a bug > thread that asks only for a doc-string fix, then > you're not helping users, or the project, as much as > you could. Copy...paste...send. Simple. No, it's not simple. There's no place to copy/paste from, because installing a change usually doesn't involve looking at the diffs, or even producing them. We edit the sources and commit them, that's it. > (I'd even consider that common courtesy, but you're > by no means obliged to see courtesy the same way, > of course.) Yes of course: everyone has to be courteous to you, but you don't feel you need to be courteous to others.