From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54173: 28.0.91; Training wheels for query-replace Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 08:54:22 +0200 Message-ID: <835yp0pzoh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a6edi8b3.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29751"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 54173@debbugs.gnu.org To: Augusto Stoffel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 27 07:55:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nODSd-0007cN-Fz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 07:55:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58842 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nODSc-0003P5-2W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nODSR-0003Ow-OP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34604) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nODSQ-0001qr-5p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nODSQ-0004Cc-54 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:55:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 06:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54173 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 54173-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54173.164594488316117 (code B ref 54173); Sun, 27 Feb 2022 06:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54173) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2022 06:54:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56734 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nODS7-0004Bt-F5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:54:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nODS6-0004Bg-DP for 54173@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:54:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=45470 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nODS1-0001pM-0k; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:54:37 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=8pcScgspgGG3yuuNFaMttIc7XMb99Y5QkIedNRXmlc8=; b=NHCmv3CGT6wqzTletG3B A6kQCntB0BtcgajP6/b2YQX+EZpvyctLSd6CevK/ZIaJ5oNhBV0cx8RrrvvosSFkVXp5Igoq3YiSr keeZd/0CmgbO1DBVzbCT+WJ5drqs+kigtEA/4YAovNnXxswGuYLbaL7u7pqNz6y4sYwtmory+kSrV CJY1ifDHm5OI97X1e0nGGaEFXccqYYiJEr57STHeSPK2t23Hc/BBNvCExBOLZ6QXDAozvf/WGKjzX cKv05PM/TDC0ZUmiopv6z0OxaHbJRwcFSGa4hPULDIvyormVqLmLR4rl9CC8W6AoRJ/b04zJgV9bG 6Vm494BuoZKOBQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3341 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nODS0-0005cR-DR; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:54:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87a6edi8b3.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Augusto Stoffel on Sat, 26 Feb 2022 23:15:12 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:227697 Archived-At: > From: Augusto Stoffel > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 23:15:12 +0100 > > I've been using query-replace for years but still seem to have trouble > remembering some of the keys. How about making the help message next to > the prompt “(? for help)” customizable, with an option to include an > extra summary line? I don't think it's a good idea to leave documentation and help to users. I'd rather we made the help text better, or maybe introduce a key to display a more detailed help text. Emacs should not have sub-optimal help text. Can you tell why you have trouble remembering some of the keys, and how changing the help message could countermand that? Thanks.