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Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4207 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1np1H3-0008D4-Pi; Thu, 12 May 2022 01:22:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 11 May 2022 20:27:39 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232012 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "larsi@gnus.org" , > "13649@debbugs.gnu.org" > <13649@debbugs.gnu.org>, > "jidanni@jidanni.org" > Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 20:27:39 +0000 > > >> ‘C-l’, ‘C-v’, ‘M-v’ don't scroll the original buffer. > > > > > > Isn't that expected? y-or-n-p doesn't need to allow you to edit the > > > text in the minibuffer. > > > > Maybe this difference is unimportant. But still remains the need > > to find a key to show help text from yes-or-no-p. y-or-n-p now > > uses C-h to show help, but in yes-or-no-p C-h is useful as > > a help key prefix. > > Apologies for not following this. > If you're looking for a key that will show some help, > maybe consider `?'. How can we use a printable character in yes-or-no-p, which expects the user to type readable text? Are you saying that the answer to yes-or-no-p can never include a question mark? And even if we, for some strange reason, decide that for yes-or-no-p the question mark is not needed as itself, this issue is AFAIU general to all uses of reading from the minibuffer, where we definitely cannot usurp any printable character for help commands.