From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54296: Add buffer-matching functionality Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 16:20:26 +0300 Message-ID: <835yl2rrl1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ee3d4cli.fsf@posteo.net> <87k0d35c82.fsf@gnus.org> <877d92unqn.fsf@posteo.net> <83bkyednvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87cziudmyg.fsf@posteo.net> <838rtheogd.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilskbgul.fsf@posteo.net> <83ilskcp9i.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8whio1a.fsf@posteo.net> <83czipkylw.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmmp9c63.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8wgk7tn.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfrk3b86.fsf@posteo.net> <834k0ovket.fsf@gnu.org> <5eb376b4-5f7e-6b00-286a-8bd0950dae22@yandex.ru> <83pmjbrsiu.fsf@gnu.org> <6dd7e47d-4115-7e2c-4ee0-d4e00f684a90@yandex.ru> <83ilp2sljp.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4140"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 54296@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, larsi@gnus.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 15:36:07 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o1TBn-0000uf-E0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2885 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1Swl-0006Pm-Oh; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 09:20:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Wed, 15 Jun 2022 14:48:52 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234583 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 14:48:52 +0300 > Cc: 54296@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, larsi@gnus.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 15.06.2022 05:33, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > This seems to be some misunderstanding. I wanted us to have only > > 'derived-mode', not 'major-mode'. > > Okay?... > > > But Philip was unhappy about that, > > due to existing usage of 'major-mode', and eventually 'major-mode' was > > left in the code. Or at least this is my recollection of the > > discussion and its resolution. > > 'major-mode' was left in the code and in the docs, but its meaning was > changed. Hence the backward compatibility concern. > > And 'derived-mode' was dropped. > > Or you could say that 'major-mode' was dropped, and 'derived-mode' was > left it, but renamed. Then I'm sorry, but I don't think I have anything to do with that change. If I somehow cause Philip to make such changes, I apologize, because I never meant anything even close (and cannot understand how what I wrote could have interpreted to that effect, but that's water under the bridge). Once again, my only comment about the code was that I thought (and still think) we should not use major-mode matching, but derived-mode matching instead.