From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56510: Make some games obsolete (or just remove them from the menu) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 17:36:18 +0300 Message-ID: <835yk2xusd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tu7mxysb.fsf@gnus.org> <837d4ixvej.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18060"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 56510@debbugs.gnu.org To: stefan@marxist.se Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 12 16:48:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oBHBI-0004Vh-WA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 16:48:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44238 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oBHBH-0004ce-WC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59752) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH9p-0003cG-E7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:46:37 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49505) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH0Y-0006Xm-Ic for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH0Y-0002iR-FR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56510 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 56510-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56510.165763659610401 (code B ref 56510); Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56510) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2022 14:36:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH08-0002hh-5Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:36:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43214) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH06-0002hV-IT for 56510@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:36:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH01-0006Pg-0i; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:36:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sZ+JsWKAu5G50ZHzUjqyg3Lr8UhDhJ0caCKdvLk+W4c=; b=abWGgHf/EPIB 6xWKknEKqFR3YQuwZqtnqGN/dl54RrQufo1Ahsb/oF80UX96I6L66Od26BXvavni2IOv+eFU1fZFT UIJ+lrCaJFoqF55+Id7LeAZMB+BRIrSa5h29ugAt9+1w6ngEIZsGr98zHO3mX+/xFVBv2Etv3VXuH xLP3+3ApvJx/8wSvP8rWcuSEnL+XCHFkVo1DEnRxrb8VTuA1ip2UzyrSxZxP1NMYLDX4VkeHer5bN PXBuFW/1ma+xqvtuixnxGR9FXUhpcKadJNljwjdmJR71Ahps9ytLmlyJ1SLTjOf1GfWpFDdUBDBC3 +356j+KbEvGK7RbEW3jUVA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3641 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH00-0000pF-GE; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:36:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <837d4ixvej.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 12 Jul 2022 17:23:00 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236806 Archived-At: > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 56510@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 17:23:00 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > Cc: 56510@debbugs.gnu.org > > From: Stefan Kangas > > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 09:04:44 -0500 > > > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > > >> I suggest that we either remove some of them from the "Tools -> Games" > > >> menu, or obsolete them outright. Here are the ones that I don't think > > >> pass the bar: > > >> > > >> - 5x5.el > > >> - blackbox.el > > >> - gomoku.el > > >> - pong.el > > >> - solitaire.el > > > > > > I think pong is vaguely amusing (but it needs fixing -- it doesn't work > > > well by default since it uses a too-wide buffer). I think removing the > > > rest from the menu might make sense, because they sure aren't pretty. > > > > Could we agree to drop "5x5", "blackbox", "gomoku" and "solitaire" (or > > some subset thereof) from the menu? Eli? > > I don't see why remove any games from there. Or let me turn the table and ask you: what are the criteria for the decision? Why these games yes and others no?