From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59248: 29.0.50; apropos lists keywords as if they were variables Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:09:43 +0200 Message-ID: <835yfilo9k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sfimpzdi.fsf@thb.lt> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34707"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59248@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thibault Polge Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 13 19:10:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQo-0008rV-15 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 19:10:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQi-0005C1-NZ; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQg-0005BS-0Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQf-0003M1-OH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:10:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQf-0005CD-Ju for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:10:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 18:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59248 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59248-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59248.166836298419945 (code B ref 59248); Sun, 13 Nov 2022 18:10:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2022 18:09:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52498 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQN-0005Bc-LF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:09:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQL-0005BQ-94 for 59248@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:09:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQF-0003K2-2y; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:09:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ziLFsRJF6+qsOslMSUlkY5bxT1JlOU+W09QqwsCqDkA=; b=eG/LBC/wtaZH RMJz/9fFRCcL+SMdQYgAiZ0l/rQGv0hqZx308EAxysWisvL0VRfbgGGLkxAj+dFYVNPP9LvRi3Mbi b5hYnUHRtveiYPItYZj0NpGyKrbWk+ohdtRLSy0djtP4xWyKue2OXgFfVATQdIkyBWRtIyTMLgswk 1X7o0Z5idVs9sOdPSPw3d87a1+Ae0jNW0IfHgy1tutYnODIXuX0qfLFSxr316qtVm8rDHw32Y7Whu oDqooENJOedJ7Q7ytmNbaj6Yws6wxpZyN/ti8gS28D6ykS0hjE96tbzMKt/QCAFzfa91STruzRYU0 9u0pv0+NDGNDUa89cqS8Fg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouHQE-00024o-IT; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:09:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87sfimpzdi.fsf@thb.lt> (message from Thibault Polge on Sun, 13 Nov 2022 17:56:09 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:247803 Archived-At: > From: Thibault Polge > Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 17:56:09 +0100 > > On a very recent (about yesterday) Emacs from HEAD, apropos lists > interned keywords as undocumented variables. Eg, the following > invocation: > > M-x apropos RET distant-foreground RET > > displays the following output: > > > Type RET on a type label to view its full documentation. > > > > :distant-foreground > > Variable: (not documented) > > Value: :distant-foreground > > This is technically correct --- keywords are variable-ish "M-x apropos" is not just about variables. It's about any symbol that matches a regexp. > but quite useless. At best, keywords just add noise to `apropos` > output. At worst, they may be misleading, since an user may assume > they can somehow control something by setq'ing a keyword. How can Emacs know that the user didn't actually _want_ to look up a keyword? It is not impossible.