From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.orgmode Subject: bug#59882: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 09:17:23 +0200 Message-ID: <835yel11x8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tu27jq7h.fsf@localhost> <87k032nyok.fsf@localhost> <39a5810d-75bc-4ddb-8722-703f762ed4de@app.fastmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30489"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, michel@schi.nz, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org To: David Masterson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 09 08:18:42 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p3Xeb-0007gs-Sk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 08:18:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3XeD-0000QE-UM; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 02:18:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3Xdy-0000At-Ri for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 02:18:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3Xdy-0007PZ-Jb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 02:18:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3Xdy-0003pp-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 02:18:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 07:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59882 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59882-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59882.167057026314722 (code B ref 59882); Fri, 09 Dec 2022 07:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59882) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2022 07:17:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34147 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3Xdf-0003pO-C2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 02:17:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3Xdd-0003pI-Ln for 59882@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 02:17:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3XdX-0007LH-Co; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 02:17:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ySVERv42gNXuYxLpyZ/x5rM9dr8fhfQPCUmfseLDQDM=; b=q5gUDGzalLBR r3VpgToULJtXniInPI5O9LcqKinv/iDj9vdYpyBoNQbT8ABzeLFC/nb+lgR8GxUH51dWS3cYaGpN6 s3RAvCCF1SjN0UHVGQTAIf1LCHZuCo1VpWlq+tMqQ6pydf72UAPzJopPr5aSHwOrjJKlTzy1Lgjct ZNyG0qAmIcpw6aWYMRHX0AdsKCMvEDwdvIJzJas2i5rpUjaHyPvCRzwdpEZxFbHiNhLAggliCMEQ8 3Al9TO9YhcxQmnc2S56m3CjseWCo0XyA93qxLbr6nVKSEPIWv5ngcDbW0F0b2yTdsghzgh7LOPLRk WLAbmoyKifZ+KxSsk+NheA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3XdU-0004nD-5O; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 02:17:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from David Masterson on Thu, 08 Dec 2022 13:56:03 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:250359 gmane.emacs.orgmode:151171 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org > From: David Masterson > Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 13:56:03 -0800 > > In my testing, I found a strange case where, in *scratch*, I get: > > (message "%s" org-version) > ;; Error undefined > ;; Do 'C-h v org-version' > (message "%s" org-version) > 9.3 > > So, 'describe-variable' on org-version causes Org to be loaded?!? Why is it so surprising? Is this the first time you see that a Help command loads something to do its job?