From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60859: [PATCH] Remove reference to the kbd function from documentation Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:52:23 +0200 Message-ID: <835yd0miiw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87pmbeivcl.fsf@panoramix.zarniwoop.org> <83ilh64juj.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7qyo3nc.fsf@panoramix.zarniwoop.org> <83cz7e4dve.fsf@gnu.org> <87edrt6y4p.fsf@panoramix.zarniwoop.org> <875yd5ciqs.fsf@gmail.com> <87fsc9jg6p.fsf@panoramix.zarniwoop.org> <83lem12hjh.fsf@gnu.org> <874jspj6fn.fsf@panoramix.zarniwoop.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31910"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 60859-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Panagiotis Koutsourakis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 21 08:53:28 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8gp-00089V-PB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 08:53:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8gT-0001h3-OW; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 02:53:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8gS-0001gN-1u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 02:53:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8gR-0003NQ-QB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 02:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8gQ-0001rI-MN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 02:53:02 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 07:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 60859 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Mail-Followup-To: 60859@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, kutsurak@slartibartfast.net Original-Received: via spool by 60859-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D60859.16742875507045 (code D ref 60859); Sat, 21 Jan 2023 07:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60859-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2023 07:52:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8fu-0001pY-8t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 02:52:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37326) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8fs-0001pI-Bc for 60859-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 02:52:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8fn-0002xb-1O; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 02:52:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=6aB/S+X72IGotVAvrKVQ6/aiO3wcdNQ8AwDTXmfmfjA=; b=rpp6Eo8ukGsi vn1VN+3SEwCwlWfhzd/TbpAi0xJEGf43IsXrez06yt1HcttYd4Iw3UIujKWwoawkAqAEAk34CHJrx ss0vFlyxCDFTezapUbDTm+DcRAFEBkka6cp7hlq39yJIYdg3ggmKdG+e6QM3s22htosTf07hrZi+t mwXWQbhnaAGNY9xj3ruN9DZYd/URKEnEwzWfZXl30C8RSylXkOEnlSCqjwzvHlnawSvfrZIbXqPzD 5/tDyvG4UJDV92WYpwufIUUud1RvGah5G3KGa1XpzcGRC0uKuLzhvi367FljBZap1Q703U+8OsheB JvrzfDD069++VekrfI9QDA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJ8fm-0007E1-AO; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 02:52:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874jspj6fn.fsf@panoramix.zarniwoop.org> (message from Panagiotis Koutsourakis on Tue, 17 Jan 2023 21:40:28 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:253832 Archived-At: > From: Panagiotis Koutsourakis > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 60859@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 21:40:28 +0200 > > On Tue, Jan 17 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > There's no need to generalize so much. Let's handle this specific > > issue, and then move on. > > > > For now, I don't want to remove references to 'kbd' from the manual, > > because many people still use it. So please accept that as the > > baseline, and let's find the best way to describe the new APIs as > > well. > > Eli, I am not sure if you saw my earlier message with the second > proposed patch taking into account your feedback from yesterday. > Apologies for any confusion I caused. > > Robert raised some valid points in his reply about it: > > 1. it does not describe accurately the arguments accepted by the old API: > lisp strings and vectors of input events are missing. I think that > pointing the users to the reference manual is enough to remedy this. > > 2. The syntax accepted by the new API and 'kbd' is not explicit. This > is, I believe, a more serious issue. I don't think that the previous > versions of the manual had an explicit description of it at this point, > but since we are re-examining the section anyway, we should write a few > words. I adapted the description Robert wrote in his e-mail (thank you > Robert!). > > I am attaching the patch with these changes. Thanks, installed on the emacs-29 branch (with some changes), and closing the bug.