From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62248: 29.0.60; nil obsolete Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: <835yaycyma.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875yay3hco.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <875yay3hco.fsf@yahoo.com> <87bkkq1rg6.fsf@md5i.com> <838rfuczfc.fsf@gnu.org> <877cve1qf4.fsf@md5i.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6980"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 62248@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Welsh Duggan Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 18 08:23:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQuX-0001aP-3U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 08:23:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQuA-0002GO-1o; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:23:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQu7-0002G6-AT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQu6-0004kE-OM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQu6-0000eN-Ia for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 07:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62248 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62248-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62248.16791241612449 (code B ref 62248); Sat, 18 Mar 2023 07:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2023 07:22:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46068 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQtl-0000dQ-I3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:22:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQtj-0000dB-Dp for 62248@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQte-0004hr-6Y; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:22:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Dx8qgUWgepB0urQfu/uY0K/XWPBs1LE7MXaZ+4l2jzE=; b=NaTWb+SfSK4k Sn8aS5y1ImVpAOfGz3GdyGRbQno9HE2K2ThG7Ww4puj8T8bJCktGBWv8os+c+B6rKwcxvXZt8NbOB Sj6Sz++abJbESgHMOZxUjqpeMIXWEIH9Oac6O3bZQyHDfRrnn2tqrgGFNNA8cGiAkmqAXhnfWZOnp bEx8ZCm13yz/3EAd86WuUoh4agXiwYL8Dt8lKQtrwdCU6dQM/k7x/WFuEQi8jbqo8Bbhd/NDw+AOU 1JoafAp61fFEhkKt3F4CktyWtOSO8Dcpgko9m6yVEAQ8EiFnpyHqNrsS/kCiU1p/ijkzQFspQnG3k 55GjAYpMlqa1F4DZskkRxg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQtd-0001SO-JM; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:22:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877cve1qf4.fsf@md5i.com> (message from Michael Welsh Duggan on Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:15:11 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:258130 Archived-At: > From: Michael Welsh Duggan > Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , 62248@debbugs.gnu.org, > luangruo@yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:15:11 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > If so, how about running Emacs with a breakpoint in Fput and condition > > that symbol == Qnil (assuming your Emacs is not configured to > > represent Lisp objects as structs)? > > I traced it, in my instance, to this line from url-gw.el: > > (make-obsolete-variable url-gw-rlogin-obsolete-warned-once nil "29.1") OK, I already found (by different means) that one, and fixed it (and another similar one in url-misc). > Maybe `make-obsolete-variable' should warn or error with nil as its > initial argument. We could install something like that on master, yes. But then we should also warn if the symbol is t, I think.