From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64871: 30.0.50; [FR] Add command and menu item to open user init file Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:43:33 +0300 Message-ID: <835y64jjey.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87jzun7x34.fsf@localhost> <871qguxirf.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sf99ncfi.fsf@gnu.org> <87ila57o10.fsf@localhost> <83bkfxn392.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz0d7md3.fsf@localhost> <837cqln0nb.fsf@gnu.org> <874jlofods.fsf@localhost> <83ila4jl92.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkfwql59.fsf@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31313"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 64871@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 28 14:46:01 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMr1-0007wV-AZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 14:45:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMoD-0003jW-G2; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:43:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMoA-0003gG-0y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMo9-0000OW-OO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMo9-0007rP-Jq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:43:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 12:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64871 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64871-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64871.169054816830192 (code B ref 64871); Fri, 28 Jul 2023 12:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64871) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2023 12:42:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44071 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMnw-0007qu-01 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:42:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36146) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMnu-0007qf-Nw for 64871@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:42:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMno-0000EA-TO; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:42:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=pO1eIrXv0OO1A9BnLLcGB1kWDtiScvfnffcHoMdfWWY=; b=KaqZHIlUhQi+ zKFdodHDIVZf2l5jQZe7BIGy/d6J5Z/e5SJIiXhxym7jTTbg+PMARIpLYpiHGxkebIrVHhoh3/5ME oEbVMGhKwa5smhVIMyXuvrO9R5+N/5P4LBfcFB7R9/JaCU3UbElHkhLW887L5FQETiXO+TtKyH6rK QFm0YZcNTOqBsDS2hSjaDWMCYhn/71kHp5BIDowkFOpCot1IB26f3l4WiFY4RHvt35Bun8RXzyxld 6U2wE3kO0xYG7E7ErhE/y2F9fkbHeRGzz/fyjxs/GiLnvLWHHnglxybRhogLecKXVQcnRyv+A8SbN YmcV1+jE/AFmAjtAPymceg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qPMno-00037k-C5; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:42:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bkfwql59.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Fri, 28 Jul 2023 12:24:18 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:266270 Archived-At: > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 64871@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 12:24:18 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > How about: > > > > "Top-level groups of customizable options, and their descriptions." > > "Tree-like browser of all the groups of customizable options." > > I agree that it is much more accurate. > Then, may it be acceptable to change the menu names to: > 1. "Customize Emacs" > 2. "Tree view of all customizations" > > These are a bit more familiar (IMHO) and we still retain more accurate > popup text. I think the current menu items convey additional information, so repeating the help-echo text will be less useful. And in any case, I'm very reluctant changing names of existing menu items, unless there's real trouble with some name. We arrived at these names after long discussions, so they have some weight.