From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7842: acknowledged by developer (control message for bug 7842) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:23:57 +0200 Message-ID: <834nh4mcle.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8739owi45n.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87zjzfpx5j.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87txpnpwqb.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83fw178ah5.fsf@gnu.org> <87sj50m4hu.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83bobn51dz.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2vtce1h.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83mwuwn3b3.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppzsgu08.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361557495 16808 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2013 18:24:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7842@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jameson Graef Rollins Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 19:25:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xIz-0002X3-Te for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:25:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54999 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xIf-0003Q0-AO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:24:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37647) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xIX-0003PB-JX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:24:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xIV-0007sr-GN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:24:41 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xIV-0007sf-Ck for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:24:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xJq-0005ED-BJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:26:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7842 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 7842-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7842.136155752820032 (code B ref 7842); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:26:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2013 18:25:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44636 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xJH-0005D3-Vb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:25:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:34878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xJF-0005Cu-Ru for 7842@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:25:27 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIM00700W6BEA00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 7842@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:24:00 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIM00714WG0ES00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:24:00 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87ppzsgu08.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71660 Archived-At: > From: Jameson Graef Rollins > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 7842@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:04:23 -0800 > > > It is impossible to separate the standard output and standard error > > streams of the subprocess, because Emacs normally spawns the subprocess > > inside a pseudo-TTY, and a pseudo-TTY has only one output channel. If > > you want to keep the output to those streams separate, you should > > redirect one of them to a file--for example, by using an appropriate > > shell command. > > I don't believe this at all. Which part? > Obviously the command can separate stdout From stderr or it wouldn't > be able to capture stdout to a buffer and separately redirect stderr > to a file. The text above says that it is impossible to separate them without going through files. In a pipe, there's only one channel, so you can either have stderr redirected to the same place as stdout (in which case they are not separated), or put one of them on a file. And you clearly said you don;t want any files. > Come on, guys. Let's have a serious discussion here. No more smoke > blowing. I don't know whether anybody is blowing smoke here, but I'm certainly not doing that.