From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:41:33 +0200 Message-ID: <834n5kw5w2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C1C456.2080004@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvpa16kh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C25D07.80808@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l91l2t.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4C95C.2010905@cs.ucla.edu> <837gajyrq1.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4F008.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> <83zjnextyg.fsf@gnu.org> <52C5BDD1.2050009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppoaxfu6.fsf@gnu.org> <52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org> <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org> <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388821330 26351 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 07:42:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 07:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 08:42:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzLs7-0005qy-Qu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 04 Jan 2014 07:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2014 07:41:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32938 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzLrn-0004qN-VZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 02:41:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:54952) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzLrl-0004qC-GL for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 02:41:54 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYV00B0093IXG00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:41:52 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYV00BXV9DSR460@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:41:52 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82897 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:07:32 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > I think we're pretty close to the point where ‘ and ’ > > can be assumed to work "everywhere", but we're not quite there yet. > > But I'd hope that Debian builds would not follow that default and > > would tell make info to use things like ‘ and ’ since these chars > > should pretty much always work in a Debian system. > > OK, attached is a patch to implement that suggestion, with the proviso > that the default is to use curly quotes on Debian-like systems where > UTF-8 support seems ubiquitous, and to use ASCII quotes elsewhere. Thanks. However, I don't like system-specific defaults, and I think a configure-time option to change this is a nuisance. I think we should use --disable-encoding instead, and do it by default. People who want Unicode quotes and other special characters can always override that by specifying non-default MAKEINFO_OPTS at "make info" time.