From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:15:28 +0200 Message-ID: <834n5ht7bz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C25D07.80808@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l91l2t.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4C95C.2010905@cs.ucla.edu> <837gajyrq1.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4F008.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> <83zjnextyg.fsf@gnu.org> <52C5BDD1.2050009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppoaxfu6.fsf@gnu.org> <52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org> <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org> <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l4w5pj.fsf@gnu.org> <83ha9jv5lh.fsf@gnu.org> <838uuvum9n.fsf@gnu.org> <8338l2v1tn.fsf@gnu.org> <52C9BA68.7050703@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp2tcqx.fsf@gnu.org> <52C9BCBF.7050904@cs.ucla.edu> <83eh4mtc52.fsf@gnu.org> <52C9E53D.8070106@cs.ucla.edu> <838uutu5mu.fsf@gnu.org> <52CA3FB9.30509@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389025022 23630 80.91.229.3 (6 Jan 2014 16:17:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 06 17:17:07 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0CrJ-0003F8-7W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:16:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36057 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0CrI-0007GU-OV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:16:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54695) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0CqY-0006Uq-21 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:16:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0CqR-0005KO-9L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:16:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0CqR-0005KH-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:16:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W0CqQ-0002UZ-Je for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.13890249509559 (code B ref 16292); Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2014 16:15:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W0CqD-0002U6-Ql for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:15:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:46514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W0CqB-0002Tu-6U for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:15:48 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYZ00I00MBQ8C00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:15:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYZ00H52MI3DRE0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:15:40 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52CA3FB9.30509@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83064 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 21:31:37 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I'm okay with the first one. > > OK, I pushed it into the trunk as bzr 115884. Thanks. > The second one should wait until after the feature freeze is over > so there's no rush in nailing down the details. Right. > > As for the second, I still think that (a) the ASCII version should be > > the default, and (b) using --enable/disable-encoding on the makeinfo > > command line is an easier way of achieving the same effect. > > Let's look at (b) first. I don't see how it would work, > since we can't assume that the installer has makeinfo, > which means the option cannot be made at install time > by using --enable-encoding or --disable-encoding. Is it a frequent situation that someone who does the configure and "make" steps doesn't have makeinfo? I thought this to be rare. If I'm wrong, then I guess those users who do want to generate the Info files with a non-default style of punctuation will have to install Texinfo or live with this minor problem. And if we use (a) as well, then the distributed version will already be completely readable, if not the most beautiful one. > Unless you want to ship two copies of each .info file > in the tarball, a full version and an ASCIIfied version? No, of course not.