bug#17828: 24.4.50; cygwin ispell process not responding

bug#17828: 24.4.50; cygwin ispell process not responding

[Yigal Hochberg]

Description:

Emacs on Windows XP

When spelling a buffer from emacs using cygwin ispell, some of the times the
ispell process hangs and need to be aborted.

This did happen with previous emacs versions e.g 24.3

Thank you

Yigal Hochberg




In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2014-05-26 on LEG570
Repository revision: 117160 eliz@gnu.org-20140526165528-a8wdcew8p9q3gwph
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
Configured using:
 `configure --enable-checking 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3'
 CPPFLAGS=-DGLYPH_DEBUG=1'

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: ENU
  locale-coding-system: cp1252

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  iswitchb-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  which-function-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
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  font-lock-mode: t
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Recent input:
M-x v e r s SPC <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> <home> 
M-x e m c SPC <backspace> a SPC c SPC r e s SPC <backspace> 
p <tab> SPC <tab> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> r e p o <tab> r <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Loading arc-mode...done
Loading wildcard-to-regexp...done
Preparing diary...
No diary entries for Saturday, June 21, 2014
Preparing diary...done
Loading c:/yigal/lisp/emacs222.el (source)...done
Package iswitchb is obsolete!
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-05-26 on LEG570
Making completion list... [2 times]

Load-path shadows:
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c:/yigal/lisp/rmail-spam-filter hides c:/emacs/emacs-24.4/share/emacs/24.4.50/lisp/mail/rmail-spam-filter

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-- 
- Yigal

bug#17828: 24.4.50; cygwin ispell process not responding

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:21:03 -0400
> From: Yigal Hochberg <hochberg@dmhsoftware.com>
> 
> Emacs on Windows XP
> 
> When spelling a buffer from emacs using cygwin ispell, some of the times the
> ispell process hangs and need to be aborted.
> 
> This did happen with previous emacs versions e.g 24.3
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Yigal Hochberg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
>  of 2014-05-26 on LEG570

Why are you using a Cygwin ispell with a native Windows Emacs?  This
combination could have "issues" regarding communications via pipes.
My recommendation is to use a native Windows build of a speller
instead.  Hunspell can be found here:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/hunspell-1.3.2-3-w32-bin.zip/download

bug#17828: 24.4.50; cygwin ispell process not responding

[Yigal Hochberg]

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Hi Eli,

Toda, Ma nishma?

I used to use ispell4 for Windows but this was unsupported and old.

Then,I switched to Cygwin aspell because is just worked "out-of-the-box".
It worked ok for a long while w/out a problem and no need for customization.
(emacs just found it and worked with it ok, despite pipes).

The problem appeared with emacs 24.4.

I will try the Window speller you pointed.

Thanks,

Yigal






On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:21:03 -0400
> > From: Yigal Hochberg <hochberg@dmhsoftware.com>
> >
> > Emacs on Windows XP
> >
> > When spelling a buffer from emacs using cygwin ispell, some of the times
> the
> > ispell process hangs and need to be aborted.
> >
> > This did happen with previous emacs versions e.g 24.3
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Yigal Hochberg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
> >  of 2014-05-26 on LEG570
>
> Why are you using a Cygwin ispell with a native Windows Emacs?  This
> combination could have "issues" regarding communications via pipes.
> My recommendation is to use a native Windows build of a speller
> instead.  Hunspell can be found here:
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/hunspell-1.3.2-3-w32-bin.zip/download
>
>


-- 
Yigal

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bug#17828: 24.4.50; cygwin ispell process not responding

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:43:53 -0400
> From: Yigal Hochberg <hochberg@dmhsoftware.com>
> Cc: Yigal Hochberg <hochberg@dmhsoftware.com>
> 
> I got hunspell, then unziped and directed emacs to use it as its program.
> 
> ispell-program-name is a variable defined in `ispell.el'.
> Its value is "c:/hunspell/bin/hunspell.exe"
> Original value was
> "c:/cygwin/bin/aspell.exe"
> 
> It seems like it requires more customization.

What customization?  Emacs 24.4 doesn't require any customization
besides pointing it to the Hunspell executable.

> I prefer the cygwin aspell because "it is there".

Hey, it's you who complained that it hangs.  If you are okay with
those hangs, it's fine by me.  I was just trying to help you get rid
of those hangs.

bug#17828: 24.4.50; cygwin ispell process not responding

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 13:04:51 -0400
> From: Yigal Hochberg <hochberg@dmhsoftware.com>
> 
> I would like to see cygwin aspell working with emacs as in
> release prior to emacs 24.4.
> 
> I rely on the cooperation between emacs and cygwin. They work ok
> together.

Native and Cygwin programs are subtly incompatible.  I don't see how
we can support this combination fully.  Sorry.

bug#17828: 24.4.50; cygwin ispell process not responding

[Yigal Hochberg]

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Eli,

After playing with huspell a bit more I made it to work.
So far so good.

Do you know when emacs 24.4 will be released?
Any idea why iswitchbuf was retired? (it is still in the release).

Toda,

Yigal



On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 13:04:51 -0400
> > From: Yigal Hochberg <hochberg@dmhsoftware.com>
> >
> > I would like to see cygwin aspell working with emacs as in
> > release prior to emacs 24.4.
> >
> > I rely on the cooperation between emacs and cygwin. They work ok
> > together.
>
> Native and Cygwin programs are subtly incompatible.  I don't see how
> we can support this combination fully.  Sorry.
>
>


-- 
Yigal

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bug#17828: 24.4.50; cygwin ispell process not responding

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 15:32:07 -0400
> From: Yigal Hochberg <hochberg@dmhsoftware.com>
> Cc: 17828@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> After playing with huspell a bit more I made it to work.
> So far so good.

Great.  FWIW, it works for me flawlessly for a year or so.

> Do you know when emacs 24.4 will be released?

"Soon".  It's in pretest.

> Any idea why iswitchbuf was retired? (it is still in the release).

No idea.  Suggest to ask on emacs-devel.