From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19302: 24.4.51; `date-to-time' fails after 2038 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:49:15 +0200 Message-ID: <834mt4wtec.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87vblmc377.fsf@gmail.com> <83ppbswzfq.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9x4k7qg.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <8361dkwufl.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418151025 20475 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 18:50:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19302@debbugs.gnu.org, ivan@siamics.net To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 19:50:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPrT-0004Sy-E4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:50:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41969 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPrT-0002yM-2U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:50:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59800) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPrL-0002vt-Kl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:50:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPrG-0001zx-8P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:50:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPrG-0001zj-5q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPrF-0003Hm-OK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:50:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19302 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19302-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19302.141815097212577 (code B ref 19302); Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19302) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2014 18:49:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPqi-0003Gj-W8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:49:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:39522) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPqd-0003GX-6O for 19302@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:49:27 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NGB00K00VYEEI00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 19302@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:49:21 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NGB00G3BWA9RY90@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:49:21 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97098 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Ivan Shmakov , 19302@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:31:20 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > So such an Emacs will be broken anyway after 2038, because it will be > > unable to interpret file attributes, use interval timers, etc. > > The problem is in parsing dates in the far future. Web pages, for > instance, popularly use an Expiry: header saying that the page expires > in the year 2100 as a synonym for "never expires". So we are going now to reinvent all the strftime stuff, complete with localized names of months, days, etyc., is that so? > It would be nice if those headers worked on 32-bit Emacsen, but on the > other hand, there's very little reason to use a 32-bit OS these days, so > it's not really a pressing issue. And it gets less pressing each year. Indeed.