From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19468: 25.0.50; UI inconveniences with M-. Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:58:02 +0300 Message-ID: <834mo0wb9h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83zja6b3tc.fsf@gnu.org> <54A24079.4020902@yandex.ru> <54A2FF47.6010207@yandex.ru> <54A86135.7080004@yandex.ru> <54A90002.7080009@gmx.at> <54A9C3FB.7000602@yandex.ru> <54AA3881.3080304@gmx.at> <54ABBB47.7010603@yandex.ru> <837fszx7iy.fsf@gnu.org> <83pp6pwqnw.fsf@gnu.org> <553EB74A.4030208@yandex.ru> <553EC300.9030904@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430233167 23618 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2015 14:59:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19468@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 16:59:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn6yc-00063P-B2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 16:59:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33962 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn6yb-0006Mb-Tk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:59:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38443) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn6yY-0006MM-DO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn6yU-0000mU-St for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn6yU-0000mQ-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn6yU-00030C-GB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19468-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19468.143023309811488 (code B ref 19468); Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2015 14:58:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn6xk-0002zE-VN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:58:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:55870) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn6xi-0002yw-4t for 19468@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:58:14 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NNI00I00UKJXU00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for 19468@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:53:14 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NNI008LXUOPZEA0@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:53:14 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <553EC300.9030904@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102169 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 02:15:12 +0300 > From: Dmitry Gutov > Cc: 19468@debbugs.gnu.org > > It seems a common enough request that we should accommodate > them better. At the very least provide a minor mode which sets up > such advice. > > But how common is it, really? I've only seen one person ask for it so far. Surely the 5 or so people who actually use tags with Elisp are a distinct minority compared to the whole Emacs user base. Why are you only talking about Elisp? What about other languages? Emacs exists not only for developing Emacs or Emacs-related packages. More importantly, this bug report is not about my preferences (although I did describe them when asked). It is about the inconsistencies and incompleteness of the new UI. Let's talk about that, and not about personal preferences.