From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37627: Document how to bypass the Easy Customization interface Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 10:15:14 +0300 Message-ID: <834l0n64u5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87muegjcbk.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="227882"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 37627@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 05 09:16:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeIY-000x5w-1A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:16:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54570 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeIW-000506-R3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52717) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeIN-0004xu-79 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeIM-0007AU-9B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeIM-0007AK-6S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeIM-0000sF-0q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 07:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37627.15702597323316 (code B ref 37627); Sat, 05 Oct 2019 07:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2019 07:15:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43629 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeHs-0000rK-F0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:15:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43629) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeHq-0000r3-79; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:15:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35060) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeHk-0006hI-QH; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:15:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2863 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iGeHk-0001Tf-8f; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:15:24 -0400 In-reply-to: <87muegjcbk.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:168350 Archived-At: tags 37627 notabug wontfix close 37627 thanks > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 07:55:11 +0800 > > On (info "(emacs) Easy Customization") we read > > ... > > To browse and alter settings (both variables and faces), type ‘M-x > customize’. This creates a “customization buffer”, which lets you > navigate through a logically organized list of settings, edit and set > their values, and save them permanently. > > Please add: > > However certain older users are bad at using interfaces to set > variables and just want to set them the old fashioned way by hand > with setq in their .emacs file. It gives them more feelings of > control. For them, please see the final section below. Sorry, no. We do want users to use this interface, and those "old users" already know how to use setq. I'm therefore closing this bug report.