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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@gmail.com>
Cc: 37826@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#37826: Very annoying autoraise client/server behavior with -t option
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:13:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <834l022i1s.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAELgYhcLkmTFHPkYJNmq2uF+5TsJajQ2NjUdP+g4yabOffo6+Q@mail.gmail.com> (message from Carlos Pita on Mon, 21 Oct 2019 11:18:04 -0300)

> From: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 11:18:04 -0300
> Cc: 37826@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> >
> > > And how to know when to delay/ignore and when to show if there is no
> > > priority hint?
> >
> > I think this is pretty clear: we want to delay when a shell script is
> > visited via the client.
> 
> I didn't mean what common sense would tell us in each case, but how to
> codify that in rules that don't quickly become a long list of patterns
> always missing some case (and then there are non-builtin packages...).

Maybe I don't understand what you are asking.  The important part of
my answer is "visited via the client", so I'm not sure what is hard in
that rule.

> > In that case, we visit the file in an existing frame.  By contrast,
> > the client needs to create a frame, and if it does that before
> > visiting the file, it will momentarily show some other buffer in that
> > frame.
> > [...]
> > No, because it will flash an empty buffer, something that Emacs
> doesn't do.
> 
> I don't get this, in both cases we have a frame that is created and a
> file that is visited. The client has the extra possibility of
> pre-loading the buffer without selecting it, which you have exploited.
> But standalone emacs has to show something before.

No, it shows the visited file immediately.

> I'm checking that right now and it indeed shows a blank screen
> (plenty of "flashes" while resizing, hiding bars, etc).

That "empty screen" is really empty, i.e. it's a window created by the
windowing system, and Emacs didn't yet display anything there.  Your
suggestion would show a buffer, with its mode line and other
decorations.  That's what the change you are talking about wanted to
avoid.

> Isn't "blank -> desired buffer" much better than "random visited
> buffer -> desired buffer" in terms of flashing? Could we give that a
> try?

I'd like to try cleaner solutions first, okay?

> I certainly don't see the current focus stealing behavior as cosmetic
> or minor

But it happens only in a small number of major modes, right?  Until
now, you identified just one: shell-script mode.  Are there others?





  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-21 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-19 20:46 bug#37826: Very annoying autoraise client/server behavior with -t option Carlos Pita
2019-10-19 21:39 ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-20  6:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21  8:58     ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 10:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 13:37         ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 13:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 14:18             ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 14:52               ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 15:13                 ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 16:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 16:13               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-10-21 16:21                 ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 16:33                   ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 16:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 16:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 15:56             ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-21 16:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 17:02                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-21 17:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 18:40                     ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 20:14                       ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-26 10:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-26 15:53                           ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-26 19:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-26 20:27                               ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-27  5:22                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-27  5:45                                   ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-27  6:02                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-27 15:04                                       ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-27 15:31                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-27 16:31                                           ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-27 16:36                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-27 17:02                                               ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-27 17:09                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-27 17:19                                                   ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-27 17:50                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 17:23                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-09 16:12                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-09 17:16                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-09 17:26                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-22 14:46                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-21 13:55           ` Carlos Pita
2019-10-21 13:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-20  5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii

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