From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 18:36:43 +0200 Message-ID: <834kyeivac.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8736e3vve8.fsf@gmx.net> <8736e2coyv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2vujd0y.fsf@gnu.org> <87blspm0sm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837e3ckbem.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2vqaj8n.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="222503"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, juri@linkov.net To: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 17:37:47 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1icu8P-000vk2-Li for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 17:37:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57344 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1icu8O-0004mK-1S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:37:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47282) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1icu7j-0004Vv-PT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:37:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1icu7i-0002uW-IS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:37:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1icu7i-0002tb-DJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1icu7i-0003AV-6J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:37:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38457 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38457-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38457.157556381512165 (code B ref 38457); Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38457) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2019 16:36:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1icu7b-0003A9-1K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:36:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36781) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1icu7Z-00039y-2R for 38457@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:36:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1icu7T-0001hE-Cw; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:36:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1221 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1icu7S-0006rb-Nf; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:36:47 -0500 In-reply-to: <87y2vqaj8n.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec on Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:24:08 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:172918 Archived-At: > From: Kévin Le Gouguec > Cc: Juri Linkov , 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, > stephen.berman@gmx.net > Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:24:08 +0100 > > Mmm, as you say, the message infrastructure is used everywhere in Emacs, > and it has received significant changes in aa89c84e00d. > > I think the regression Stephen noticed is more widespread than just > dabbrev-expand: e.g. TRAMP is also affected[1]. Does it make sense to > address each symptom individually? I didn't say individually, I said I would like to see a simpler change, one that doesn't yet again change the infrastructure significantly. For example, to fix the dabbrev case we could bind minibuffer-message-timeout to zero in progress-reporter-do-update. > Were dabbrev, TRAMP, and possibly others wrong to assume that they > could call (message …) without causing 2-second delays? No.