From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40725: 27.0.91; Tutorial reports false positive key rebindings Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 22:57:57 +0300 Message-ID: <834kt8ac6y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <187E7752-27CA-4304-8BBB-695B9588DEC2@acm.org> <83d07xb2wp.fsf@gnu.org> <569DDA5E-28F0-4329-86B2-C9AE3AC4427F@acm.org> <831rodb035.fsf@gnu.org> <37969D02-FD67-4563-BD01-A2F483999D79@acm.org> <83v9lp9j41.fsf@gnu.org> <87368sy8b1.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="86577"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, mattiase@acm.org, 40725@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 21:59:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4Tg-000MPn-Ay for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 21:59:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51244 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4Tf-0000bR-CU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4TX-0000b8-Jz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4TX-00047C-5F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4TW-00046z-P3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4TW-00061o-ON for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40725 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 40725-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40725.158775830123093 (code B ref 40725); Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40725) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2020 19:58:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4Sq-00060P-Pt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:58:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4Sp-000606-Bz for 40725@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:58:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37822) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4Sh-00030o-TC; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:58:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4889 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jS4Sg-0000Q9-ED; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:58:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87368sy8b1.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec on Fri, 24 Apr 2020 21:48:02 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178955 Archived-At: > From: Kévin Le Gouguec > Cc: Mattias Engdegård , contovob@tcd.ie, > 40725@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 21:48:02 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Git handles renames gracefully. > > > > "Gracefully" is in the eyes of the beholder. It's true the support > > for renames improved in the recent years, but there are still commands > > that either fails or need special invocation methods to work across > > renames. So it's still a source of inconvenience and occasional > > failure or mistaken conclusions, and I'd like to avoid that if > > possible. > > Out of curiosity, would it help if VC turned on these "special > invocation methods"[1] by default? They have limitations, and quite a few are expensive. > [1] I am thinking of git-log's --follow option and git-diff's > --find-rename option; I might be missing other knobs. "git log"'s --follow only works for single files (and it also has "--find-renames", which AFAIK is expensive).