From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44318: 28.0.50; Problem with ispell/flyspell and ""enchant"" backend Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 19:31:57 +0200 Message-ID: <834km6cpo2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k0v8b1u3.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8ki96m6.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0v6hhzg.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7q8e8ja.fsf@gnu.org> <838sbjepcw.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2jjd9ix.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6vycru9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z6mcqyg.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4014"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 44318@debbugs.gnu.org, dinkonin@gmail.com To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 03 18:37:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0Fc-0000yF-6W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 18:37:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42796 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0Fa-00014x-Ds for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:37:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32860) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0B4-0003n3-TO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0B4-0007lV-Hv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0B4-0006p4-FV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:33:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 17:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44318 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 44318-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44318.160442473326165 (code B ref 44318); Tue, 03 Nov 2020 17:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44318) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2020 17:32:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46320 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0AH-0006nw-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:32:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0AF-0006nj-7S for 44318@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:32:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0A9-0007fg-P2; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:32:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2107 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ka0A8-0007cj-J4; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:32:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Reuben Thomas on Tue, 3 Nov 2020 17:19:56 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192629 Archived-At: > From: Reuben Thomas > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 17:19:56 +0000 > Cc: 44318@debbugs.gnu.org, dinkonin > > I'm not sure that's right: the warning is emitted at start-up, before enchant starts executing the protocol. In > any case, as I said before, I don't think it makes sense for a client of a pipe protocol like this to combine two > streams (which cannot safely make sense). It worked until now. Enchant is the new kid on the block, so I respectfully request that it behaves itself. Yes, it probably means it should suppress the warning when invoked with -a, but I see no problem with that. (You could even consider suppressing the warning entirely, and only emitting it when some feature which requires the problematic trait is requested. But I won't tell you how to develop Enchant's UI.) > A longer-term solution would be to drop support for spellcheckers other than Enchant. I think it would be wrong for Emacs to do that, as that would put all the eggs in a single basket, something that is not safe in Free Software world, where packages become unmaintained outside of our control. Not having to deal with idiosyncratic behavior of several spellers is an advantage, but I think the risk of being left without an actively maintained spell-checking engine is so serious that it tramps that advantage many times over.