From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24774: 26.0.50; Menu display navigation commands Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 18:16:41 +0200 Message-ID: <834ki2vjx2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <63bb0f8f-86ff-a260-66a1-8a82d4ef6c9e@easy-emacs.de> <87r26bhaze.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h7pml6ds.fsf@gnus.org> <837dmyvkt4.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1l6bwlw.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36070"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 24774@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 23 17:17:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaNC-0009GI-Co for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:17:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60082 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaNB-0003Do-D2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:17:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36218) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaMw-0003CN-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaMw-0001L1-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaMw-0005ro-0d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:17:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: easy patch Original-Received: via spool by 24774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24774.161409701522535 (code B ref 24774); Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:17:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2021 16:16:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60303 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaMp-0005rP-DU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:16:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaMo-0005rC-0F for 24774@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:16:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaMi-0001Ff-FF; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:16:48 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4909 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaMh-0001Os-Of; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:16:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87r1l6bwlw.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:02:51 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200666 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Stefan Kangas , 24774@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:02:51 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > It is? I don't see it in "emacs -Q". It only gets loaded when > > emacs-lisp-mode is activated. > > emacs -Q > (featurep 'easymenu) > => t I get nil here, in Emacs 28. Both on MS-Windows and on GNU/Linux in "emacs -Q -nw". Maybe it's system-dependent? What Emacs configuration is the one where you get the above? > This is probably because *scratch* is an Emacs Lisp-derived mode Nope. > emacs-lisp.el should be able to use it, because the typical impact > on users will be nil. Why cannot emacs-lisp.el use it without preloading it? emacs-lisp.el is not itself preloaded, it loads only when you invoke the mode the first time, e.g. by visiting a .el file.