From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 16:56:04 +0300 Message-ID: <834kaoeg0b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <97d3ff2c-9e72-4004-88a9-08130ac99a74@default> <87v93avtoe.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1dyvtav.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtolx6de.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilz9x5c8.fsf@gnus.org> <87y284rb1z.fsf@gnus.org> <0d48a23084a8b0435f37@heytings.org> <83h7eqf9wx.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a230848de1d1b255@heytings.org> <83ee9uf82a.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a23084cf7a569554@heytings.org> <83czpef6hj.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a2308486fe146f77@heytings.org> <87a6khj6s5.fsf@gnus.org> <97113ce8badac94c846f@heytings.org> <87fsu8esvg.fsf@gnus.org> <97113ce8baf7455e6f58@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, hmelman@gmail.com, 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 13 16:22:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmrG-0006ga-32 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 16:22:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmrE-0000OH-MB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 10:22:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmSG-0002Jk-71 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34898) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmSE-0005VT-B0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmSE-0007m1-1e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 13:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21695 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21695-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21695.163154139829853 (code B ref 21695); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 13:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 13:56:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmRp-0007lR-Nj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54498) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmRo-0007lH-Rt for 21695@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmRj-00056S-5q; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:56:31 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3842 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmRQ-0006Ww-9o; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:56:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <97113ce8baf7455e6f58@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 13 Sep 2021 13:00:15 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214233 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 13:00:15 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > Cc: 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, hmelman@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org > > I just checked: on the current trunk, there are 331 defcustoms with a > :set. Out of these, only 49 are set with setq, 33 only at one place, and > 16 more than once. That would require changing 85 setq's into set's. Please don't. This is a tail wagging the dog. We will not disallow using 'setq' in a setter of a defcustom, it would be ridiculous if we did. I'd rather leave this minor issue unsolved than taking such drastic actions.