From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51993: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Killing emacsclient terminal with `server-stop-automatically' doesn't prompt to save files Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 14:41:28 +0200 Message-ID: <834k7vw2vb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9e47c871-a2c3-d764-bec9-d87abf3efe83@gmail.com> <79a53ecc-dbfc-d088-d80d-96f349be794a@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1070"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 51993@debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org To: Jim Porter Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 29 13:44:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mrg1I-000AdO-BS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:44:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48180 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrg1G-0007oV-Jt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:44:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53860) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfyt-0006Gn-JI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:42:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54032) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfys-0006s5-9Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:42:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfys-0001Fl-4w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:42:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51993 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 51993-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51993.16381896854756 (code B ref 51993); Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51993) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2021 12:41:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfyH-0001Ee-AD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:41:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfyF-0001ES-IC for 51993@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:41:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=40046 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfy9-0006mL-1H; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:41:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sueJuGJh1OXscGpSZnLcfCCDFhYhOACSICvMdJI1tUo=; b=gYkWHXeyRdjw oUleroII32xz05E8ui8qdo5l5harllD2yN/UUKYDEkWZoLiEFThtmNzAaXaPzJLsHClP2KMBx1l0U moxxcbhdXAe5Hu2wGrrYOMy5H+UAnRt/TH36S+JkYv+wDbeSu8OaA/bMMqyC9cnJfZ5ZiWgQOY/Da ukR7HGUr9gL63l39PHJ+/S3xokM5ZzIUqYJS9YMXe3rDoA628LrjHWOdd6zJ5rA+qYcDXfQSxLtJ3 MOxh/umrJIgups1TE6l9hzh4UaajH/gv8qHKxPXUpINSUBfo6qD0Hf2PMJ353ytbomWaZFCv92+D3 +SA6TSQ+qpo2hhQRmsfwxw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1416 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfy8-0002Lw-Ki; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:41:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <79a53ecc-dbfc-d088-d80d-96f349be794a@gmail.com> (message from Jim Porter on Sun, 28 Nov 2021 21:39:46 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:220990 Archived-At: > From: Jim Porter > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 21:39:46 -0800 > > To help move things along, I've drafted an initial version of a proposal > describing possible behaviors of `server-stop-automatically' at a high > level. Hopefully that will make it easier to discuss how each setting > should work, and we can refine the proposal until we're happy with it. > Then any implementation changes should "just" be a matter of following > the final proposal. > > I welcome any comments or suggested additions to this proposal. I > covered things how I see them, but I may not have provided enough detail > for everyone to understand all the nuances, and other people might have > their own use cases they'd like to see addressed. > > I can also post this proposal to emacs-devel if people think it would be > better to get a wider range of feedback on it. Once we can get some > level of consensus on the proposal, then hopefully we'll know the right > thing to do about this bug. Thanks. However, I'm not sure I understand the way forward, as you see it. AFAIU, there are fundamental disagreements between you and Gregory, and I don't think the disagreements are there because one of you doesn't understand the proposals of the other. So how could these disagreements be reconciled? Either you-two come up with some compromise that is acceptable by both of you, or Lars and myself make the decision for you (and we don't guarantee you will like it), or things are left as they are now. What will it be?