From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62027: Subject: 29.0.60; Breaking change in forward-sentence/backward-sentence Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 15:07:24 +0200 Message-ID: <834jqw7lrn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874jqxkoey.fsf@runbox.com> <87y1o8c39u.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34070"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: simenheg@runbox.com, manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, 62027@debbugs.gnu.org To: Daniel =?UTF-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 07 14:08:12 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX35-0008cW-I1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 14:08:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX2w-0005bt-Sp; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:08:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX2w-0005bb-7X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:08:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX2v-0007Z8-Tz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:08:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX2v-0002sM-Ph for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:08:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 13:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62027 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62027-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62027.167819446311028 (code B ref 62027); Tue, 07 Mar 2023 13:08:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62027) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2023 13:07:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44786 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX2c-0002rm-Ru for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:07:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45758) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX2a-0002rZ-RJ for 62027@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX2V-0007Wi-JN; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:07:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=no5E0+qhDF+tXU6+hm9gLZnHgBAB8775uNq5H5Gkvp0=; b=j7iwMWzak/C/SYi9WPbw /n6lzS3Vlwdfuue5PRK3LYN7lFyFC1CH835BmhRp1aIGG7SvjAO987ud7YmU6obGZ7JvQTEE/N+MB qN3CJyFWlb4QjLJgMSWcupGYUTgqp5WbumPUqRVtb4xUuyqdpD4Wx+2fkj10VWx1UIi5AY6Nh47r6 qDjDPc6agey8naYc4NbTpey9zb78aPAeVxsp6GXK0GmOSRfZoZ+0WLqFsESLd6humgzbUZHQW1wS+ tAhrmCw0PIZyBGLPJY/m2+n6UslSjlMSkyDoEgG5R7Z5guaPMvxd7NVUJEpwuVhjoMF+WIgOEbGFE yiqnOSqsrxqPSw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZX2S-0002Cu-Fb; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:07:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:257446 Archived-At: > Cc: simenheg@runbox.com, manuel@ledu-giraud.fr > Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 12:03:45 +0100 > From: Daniel Martín via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of > text editors" writes: > > > Simen Heggestøyl writes: > > > > [...] > > > >> Or could perhaps the change in return values from > >> `forward-sentence'/`backward-sentence' be reverted to old behavior, and > >> the counting logic be left to `count-sentences' instead? > > > > Hi Simen, > > > > Yes maybe I could change `count-sentences' a bit to do this. What > > others think of such a change? > > I'm all for reverting to the traditional return values of the sentence > commands, specially if they don't complicate the new command much. The > return value was not documented, but Hyrum's Law > (https://www.hyrumslaw.com/) tells us that there is an unknown amount of > code out there that depends on the traditional return value, anyway. Agreed.