From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63744: 28.2; fix dired-guess-default Date: Mon, 29 May 2023 21:27:53 +0300 Message-ID: <834jnvgfh2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838rdajmkk.fsf@gnu.org> <83jzwthsx5.fsf@gnu.org> <87fs7g53rx.fsf@web.de> <83sfbfgx2v.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38108"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 63744@debbugs.gnu.org To: Leo Liu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 29 20:28:41 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q3hbi-0009aI-Hg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 29 May 2023 20:28:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q3hbO-0003re-W5; Mon, 29 May 2023 14:28:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q3hbC-0003pf-RL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2023 14:28:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q3hb8-0002qr-H3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2023 14:28:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q3hb7-00048h-Vz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2023 14:28:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 May 2023 18:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63744 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63744-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63744.168538484215859 (code B ref 63744); Mon, 29 May 2023 18:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63744) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2023 18:27:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59131 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q3haU-00047j-BT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2023 14:27:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q3haS-00047T-JY for 63744@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2023 14:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q3haN-0002jc-DF; Mon, 29 May 2023 14:27:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=IEX5LUxAykhFoEcmziOf9K8svQd4DVoI+fKSyMOEBdM=; b=sYqN5QUx67mF m9EC46SS/3/bcMc2BGpVhjTHiXNJGDmHdcav0hzR9xN/jly1t+rVKb/y9H09t5rl+4HaBVTz8uGYB PU/2C/axLSIUnkS01rvRYegA3Jj8L332QVXD3dC7j/aaQKDzkiOD1JUWwVobpFtmYIHm1OhcaQtBm hIF0stfEo/X3wQe3te8ulO/OF7tZOxgcbjsTMkYp40FOdPbtGLh/Waat/DWaT3Hv69Je76jcZfr6/ SKIT+pSuzhU58vH4k0xZeUKP1MHDZwPwc7ZtvOPP0DuQ8DWFfzTH7OCFAvTBszX66Xo1EQ/QWZvpm g7mnrgciueiWiKaS/wPBzw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q3haM-0002M2-L9; Mon, 29 May 2023 14:27:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Leo Liu on Tue, 30 May 2023 02:20:28 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262611 Archived-At: > From: Leo Liu > Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 02:20:28 +0800 > > On 2023-05-29 15:07 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Does this answer my question above? If so, I don't think I understand > > the answer, please elaborate. I asked why not generate the whole > > value, including the REGEXP part, dynamically. > > I thought you would have grasped the problem by now ;) > > "I asked why not generate the whole value, including the REGEXP part, > dynamically." > > This is a static list. > > The problem we are trying to solve here is we don't know the list until > we know the FILE. Even when given the FILE we may still have imperfect > knowledge about which tools can handle it. > > For example, On my Mac an html file can be handled by 10 apps at the > moment including all browsers and Emacs and more. It may change next > minute when some apps are installed or uninstalled or file association > changed. I understand all that. But you are evidently still not understanding what I'm asking. Never mind, I give up. Some kind of failure to explain myself. Bottom line: we can extend the feature the way you'd like, but it will need be installed on master, and will have to wait for Emacs 30.