From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63563: 29.0.91; package.el should not install unselected packages Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 21:30:09 +0300 Message-ID: <834jnrc9xq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83r0rew5tn.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz2xza9b.fsf@posteo.net> <83jzwrgsfo.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40711"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 63563@debbugs.gnu.org To: Howard Melman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 01 20:30:24 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n43-000ARa-Nm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 20:30:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n3m-0000re-2Z; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:30:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n3i-0000rL-Pb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n3i-0002dD-Gy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n3i-0005UR-4a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:30:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 18:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63563 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 63563-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63563.168564417121035 (code B ref 63563); Thu, 01 Jun 2023 18:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63563) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2023 18:29:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38455 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n3C-0005TC-PJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:29:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58194) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n3B-0005Sy-15 for 63563@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:29:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n35-0002XZ-NN; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:29:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=VfI8bGl0hylkMu7zVvFIi9fEOWoCXZjmIUzOl7rTWC4=; b=JbEWxrp1+Hfq tUt0Uhx6crN0lGrdgIE1oNLUXP3yCtPB3S7Wuuy2ylTs1YSIy8N7wmaj4dPpkwoTf2QFwaCCJ26GO Jv0ZNhbXX2KdpCQ5ReQRklbEqY9PaaFNstzZXUOBEsHlLugw1+0ym2H41LMxlZftnEbY8UKEiVDDq xYlsI3cAfjg4+YAow3GgWIa7YNJS6WQYi9Di4dNC4eJE93yLgCJdt6ugLIAsg6pSipyIxwYb3Habn nGx/31E3o/YZeUyx3Pd7jxGSqUSvqGVLQfJpistB6vKX1vZirVXT9KAMBNf8IhKk6QWV2NmHUVP9u 3LjgGCG33ViKZBjkjCCcxQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q4n35-0003oG-6a; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:29:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Howard Melman on Thu, 01 Jun 2023 12:36:28 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262719 Archived-At: > From: Howard Melman > Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 12:36:28 -0400 > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > It turns out this behavior is new in Emacs 29, see bug#40457 and NEWS. > > Since the new behavior is incompatible with the old one, I have now > > added a new user option, package-menu-use-current-if-no-marks, to get > > back the old behavior, and mentioned it in NEWS. You can now > > customize that option to a nil value to get what you want. > > Should the default value of > package-menu-use-current-if-no-marks be nil? > > That would follow the convention of old behavior being > unchanged unless the user does something to enable the new > behavior. The discussion about that should have happened a year ago, when this change was made. Since it haven't, we cannot just undo what's been done a year ago and didn't receive any complaints until now. Sorry, we will have to make do with at least the possibility to go back to the old behavior.