From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#66326: 29.1.50; There should be a way to promote warnings to errors Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 16:51:27 +0200 Message-ID: <834jhswdg0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y1gj5ya9.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmw3zfd3.fsf@catern.com> <83wmw353ny.fsf@gnu.org> <83mswlslxu.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7h0yh7k.fsf@catern.com> <83a5skqvzz.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0lqu7wi.fsf@gnu.org> <83cyxatzva.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkcuty8v.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8b1sqtw.fsf@gnu.org> <875y30t7jr.fsf@catern.com> <835y28ydpx.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5rk8igj.fsf@catern.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16879"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: sbaugh@janestreet.com, 66326@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Spencer Baugh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 11 15:52:54 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r1pLy-0004Ch-98 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:52:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1pLj-000317-AU; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:52:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1pLd-00030O-Lq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:52:35 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1pLR-00030t-Rw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:52:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1pM6-0008RK-1E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:53:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 14:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66326 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 66326-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66326.169971434632399 (code B ref 66326); Sat, 11 Nov 2023 14:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 66326) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2023 14:52:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1pLW-0008QV-41 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:52:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48384) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1pLU-0008QH-AS for 66326@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:52:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1pKj-0002vr-F4; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:51:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=R/i2FuUyu2wRjuXmo+GqhCUtBtfZn12FR6Tp60XY47w=; b=DUVkd1ZXMikAy2woeKRP OBPw7f5r2MtxRLctrtNZWwq7sxlohP1OEGe/hWTlxMQL/27Js0/ZE8tujK4JvHhRjUJI3VP6oigXh yRvhfpzG6PQ/VZe5pneNTW0FvZ4LCMx9HZKzlx9gitMYVp3LV7v1bOu9d7HDY84faqS8bRjbB2+ho UDxrWv/1Np7PPH82mgIjx+xGzXeRoTamZbo53GZQHIZijGKcgl1qP8l1WBFWiGaRow0lKYHyM2mTP Ut7pePY+BLRi+tSh7zYkQh66328WADFSZj/s5z5/3/u+5/BxEY2ueQVJyyOaHPE1EhvhrTL2PMUoD UypSj5RqTSO02g==; In-Reply-To: <87a5rk8igj.fsf@catern.com> (message from Spencer Baugh on Sat, 11 Nov 2023 14:37:03 +0000 (UTC)) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274163 Archived-At: > From: Spencer Baugh > Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 14:37:03 +0000 (UTC) > Cc: Spencer Baugh , 66326@debbugs.gnu.org, > stefankangas@gmail.com > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> From: Spencer Baugh > >> Cc: Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii , > >> 66326@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:40:14 -0500 > >> > >> I just ran into a situation like this yet again. Again, there was a > >> stray warning on startup (something about "Symbol’s value as variable is > >> void", definitely concerning) > > > > The text you quote is not a warning, it's an error. --debug-init > > should have taken care of debugging it, AFAIU. > > I know what the difference between an error and a warning is :) The > reason this text, which usually appears in errors, showed up as a > warning, was because some random code caught the error and turned it > into a warning. Then you need to find that code, and Bob's your uncle. I see no need to add complications to Emacs based on such use cases. We cannot be expected to have a ready solution for every possible Emacs-related calamity.