From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15800: 24.3.50; hebrew: describe-input-method, case sensitive or not Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:38:55 +0200 Message-ID: <8338na9528.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fvrc43az.fsf@gmail.com> <83txfs877r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y554qgab.fsf@gmail.com> <83r4aw85kj.fsf@gnu.org> <87txfs9jqt.fsf@gmail.com> <83li1483j5.fsf@gnu.org> <87k3gn5wj4.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383669830 13651 80.91.229.3 (5 Nov 2013 16:43:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15800-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 05 17:43:54 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjjH-0002yw-9l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 17:43:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57205 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjjG-0000at-Pk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:43:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46087) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdjfm-0004RR-MC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:40:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdjfg-0007Fs-OQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:40:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50228) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdjfg-0007FT-IK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:40:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdjff-0005kB-Sx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:40:04 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 15800 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 15800@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Original-Received: via spool by 15800-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D15800.138366954721998 (code D ref 15800); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15800-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 16:39:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36013 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdjek-0005ij-Hs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:39:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:44645) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdjeh-0005iC-TD for 15800-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:39:04 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVS00100U5DUW00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15800-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:38:57 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVS001ESU8XEYC0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:38:57 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87k3gn5wj4.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80030 Archived-At: > From: Jambunathan K > Cc: 15800@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 09:29:11 +0530 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I wonder what can we say in the introductory text before the layout, > > to make this point clear. > > Sorry, I won't make any textual suggestions. > > There is a one-to-one correspondence between the standard layout and the > layout that is displayed. The problem is that the standard layout is > displayed elsewhere. (Do you really want me to split the window and > have standard layout on top buffer and hebrew layout on the bottom > buffer and figure out what comes first, uppercase or lowercase.) The "standard" word is a link, which leads you to the standard layout. > Displaying standard layout and virtual layout together (preferably > side-by-side will help.) Maybe. But it will take too much space, so it's not trivial. > ALSO, A simple example saying 'typing s gets you this' and 'typing S > gets you that will help'. I added some verbiage to that effect, I hope it clarifies things.