From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18077: 24.4.50; Info-quoted face should inherit default Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:11:42 +0300 Message-ID: <8338dpk58h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8761ipn711.fsf@lunaryorn.fritz.box> <83d2ctkfot.fsf@gnu.org> <7771859.W4ZpDVRkmj@lunaryorn> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406290386 6069 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2014 12:13:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18077@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastian Wiesner Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 14:12:58 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XAeMr-0008GV-Bh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:12:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54445 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XAeMq-0006BB-Oa for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:12:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44444) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XAeM4-0004wn-OQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:12:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XAeLy-0001IW-Td for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42136) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XAeLy-0001IN-Qy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XAeLy-0005Pu-2c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18077 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18077-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18077.140629031220806 (code B ref 18077); Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:12:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2014 12:11:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XAeLj-0005PS-O3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:11:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:61251) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XAeLd-0005PA-MP for 18077@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N9900D00OCBBM00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 18077@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:11:34 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N9900D3EOJAC100@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:11:34 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <7771859.W4ZpDVRkmj@lunaryorn> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91784 Archived-At: > From: Sebastian Wiesner > Cc: 18077@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:25:47 +0200 > > > Would you like to suggest a patch for fixing this problem? Please > > note that the underlying issue here is that the font should provide > > nice-looking glyphs for the Unicode quote characters. > > I do not think that I am in a position to suggest a patch that could generally > fix this problem. I use Emacs only in two different environments, and have no > idea of what limits and constraints Emacs must obey with regards to fonts to > remain portable across various platforms. > > I can only say that for my case it would be entirely sufficient to simply make > Info-quoted inherit from default, i.e. use '((:inherit default)) as spec in > defface. > > But I only use a GUI Emacs, and only on very recent and modern systems (Arch > Linux with KDE, and OS X 10.9), where Unicode fonts are less of a problem. On > these systems Emacs typically picks a font with good unicode coverage for the > default face automatically, e.g. DejaVu Sans Mono or a variant thereof. Character coverage is not the problem. The problem is that some widely used fonts that cover these characters have ugly or barely visible glyphs for them. > inheriting from default seems to be the standard among other > built-in faces. I would trust Stefan (who introduced this face) that he knows that for quite some time, and had his reasons for not doing that.