From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21505: 24.4; Buffer order Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:17:12 +0300 Message-ID: <8337yd7hgn.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442467105 22641 80.91.229.3 (17 Sep 2015 05:18:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21505@debbugs.gnu.org To: hoppe Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 17 07:18:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcRaE-0000nI-8u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 07:18:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56085 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcRaD-0000JZ-CF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35591) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcRa9-0000IW-FH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:18:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcRa6-0005eI-9s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:18:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43436) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcRa6-0005eE-6x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:18:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcRa5-0000N8-N9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:18:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21505 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21505-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21505.14424670351374 (code B ref 21505); Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:18:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21505) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2015 05:17:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35646 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcRZK-0000M6-UM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:37901) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcRZJ-0000Ly-4j for 21505@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NUT00J002RQ9Z00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 21505@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:19:41 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NUT00IXW2STGM00@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:19:41 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106675 Archived-At: > From: hoppe > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 22:57:07 -0400 > > Let's say I have a Linux directory that looks like > > -rw-r--r-- 1 hooked se 0 Sep 16 16:02 a > -rw-r--r-- 1 hooked se 0 Sep 16 16:02 b > -rw-r--r-- 1 hooked se 0 Sep 16 16:02 c > When I type emacs * it opens all three files but it puts me in the middle of > the buffer chain. For example when I run it, I start off at c and NextBuffer > takes me along the chain > > c -> b -> *Messages* -> *scratch* -> a -> > This is really, really annoying. I'd like to open up emacs and have the order > be any of the permutations > > c -> b -> a -> *Messages* -> *scratch* -> > b -> a -> c -> *Messages* -> *scratch* -> > a -> b -> c -> *Messages* -> *scratch* -> > > This behavior is the most natural one IMHO (user @Stefan agrees). This is a > feature request to make this the default behavior. Is the feature request to produce the above buffer order only once, upon entry to Emacs in this scenario, or is it more general, i.e. should hold at any arbitrary point in time during the Emacs session? If the latter, please define the desired buffer order more generally, since I'm guessing *scratch* and *Messages* are not the only buffers you dislike. In any case, the latter possibility is much harder to accomplish; the former is relatively easy, but I question its usefulness, given that it's limited to the initial entry.