From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21746: 24.5; purpose of dired-keep-marker-copy? Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 11:28:59 +0300 Message-ID: <8337x0y8j8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83611wy995.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445675363 25804 80.91.229.3 (24 Oct 2015 08:29:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: winkler@gnu.org, 21746@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 24 10:29:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpuCI-0006eZ-Be for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 10:29:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43458 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpuCH-0003Sn-NX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 04:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpuCE-0003Sh-Lj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 04:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpuCD-0006O9-Re for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 04:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:44793) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpuCD-0006O5-Oi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 04:29:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpuCD-0006yE-J7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 04:29:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21746-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21746.144567533826785 (code B ref 21746); Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21746) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2015 08:28:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35501 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpuC9-0006xw-Kc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 04:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:38140) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpuC7-0006xm-19 for 21746@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 04:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NWP00D00TL10Z00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for 21746@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 11:24:36 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NWP005H2U106Z80@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 11:24:36 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:107968 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:21:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: winkler@gnu.org, 21746@debbugs.gnu.org > > > But if none of them is preloaded, what is it that we do with dired.el > > and don't do with the other two packages? > > We load dired.el when you use `C-x d' (or `C-x 4 d' etc.). > We do not load the other two when you do that. I think we > should. We should consider them an integral part of Dired, > including for documentation purposes. I see no reason not > to. Would adding to dired.el autoload cookies for the commands and options in the other 2 packages have the same effect, as far as discoverability is concerned, as loading them? If not, what will be missing? > I don't even see any reason for the division into 3 files > at this point. The 2 additional files almost double the size of the Dired-related byte code. That's pretty significant, IMO, although not a catastrophe.